Re: [legaldocml] RE:[legaldocml] Two similar tags: alinea and intro

Subject: Re: [legaldocml] RE:[legaldocml] Two similar tags: alinea and intro

Hmm, ok. I looked up "alinea" in the dictionary:

In Italian, "alinea" seems to mean "introduction".

In French, "alinea" seems to mean "paragraph".

In Spanish, "alinea" seems to mean "aligns" or "lines".

In English, "alinea" doesn't mean anything at all.

Last week I asked Monica, an Italian speaker, what the <alinea> tag was for and she described it as introductory text, leading to my confusion with the <intro> tag.

This week Véronique, a French speaker, describes the <alinea> tag as useful for unnumbered paragraphs.

Fabio described <alinea> elements as a unnumbered hierarchical construct, which I believe is similar to Véronique's definition.

I have come across unnumbered paragraphs myself. In my cases, they've typically found in sections or lower levels. I think they're usually either a simple case where the paragraphs in a section aren't numbered for some reason or they're an oddity resulting from awkward amending of numbered paragraphs. In these cases, I was not considering them to be a hierarchical construct but rather a simple continuation paragraph belonging to their parent hierarchical element - and for this I was using the <p> element. For instance:

<p>This is the first unnumbered paragraph</p>

<p>This is the second unnumbered paragraph</p>

</content>

</section>

This is the first text.
<p>This is the continuation paragraph.</p>

</content>

</paragraph>

The way I now understand <alinea> to be used is as follows:

This is the first paragraph.

</content>

</paragraph>

This is the unnumbered paragraph.

</content>

</alinea>

To me, the semantics here are quite different. The <alinea> tag, if I am applying it differently, separates its text from the prior <paragraph> whereas in my prior example, the <p> tag continued the text of the <paragraph>.

Perhaps we need some more clarification on the <alinea> tag. I know we discussed this once before, but I don't think I had the right context to understand the discussion fully at that time.

-Grant

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:32 AM, PARISSE, Véronique <V.PARISSE@aubay.lu> wrote:

Hello Grant,

I use "alinea", in the markup of my document for unumbered paragraph inside another structure (like point). It is a french inheritance ;-)
I only use the "intro" for the first sentence of a list, generally ended by a ":" (we called it "introductory part")

Kind regards

Véronique

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Objet : [legaldocml] Two similar tags: alinea and intro

What is the difference between the <alinea> and <intro> tags? My current understanding seems to make them be the same thing - variously also called a "chapeau" (Canada), an "umbrella" (Canada), "introductory text" (US House), or "top bread" (Hong Kong).

Also, the tag <wrap> seems to be a bit Hollywood slang'ish. Wouldn't <wrapUp> be a bit better. The other terms I have found for this is "continuation text" (US House) or "bottom bread" (Hong Kong).

How should a proviso be handled? I've seen cases where there is a wrap up and then if continues with a follow-on paragraph "Providing that...." That seems to be generally called a proviso and amendment language often reads "In the proviso of Section..." Should it have it's own tag?

-- Grant
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