RE: [legalxml-sc] RE: [legalxml-chairs] RE: [legalxml-sc] Discrepancies in membership lists, voting rights and revenues

["dschur" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>]

Hi John,
I am quit certain this is the case but I will check one more time, should be
done in 30 minutes.
Best,
Dee Schur
Member Support
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Messing [mailto:jmessing@law-on-line.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:55 AM
To: patrick.gannon@oasis-open.org
Cc: legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; legalxml-chairs@lists.oasis-open.org;
'Scott McGrath'; 'Dee Schur'
Subject: [legalxml-sc] RE: [legalxml-chairs] RE: [legalxml-sc] Discrepancies
in membership lists, voting rights and revenues


I appreciate the efforts that are being expended on this matter, as it
is of extreme importance to the MS to have a reliable roster for
budgeting, income and voting purposes.

I have reviewed the voting roster and it seems that Dee, Scott and Roger
Winters did include the TC of members and not just the voting members,
as you pointed out.

I would like to take some time at the SC meeting in January to a
discussion of the ways in which the various lists can be synchronised
and updated so that uncertainty is kept to minimum.

Thanks to all staff for responding so quickly to the issue.

Best regards.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [legalxml-chairs] RE: [legalxml-sc] Discrepancies in
> membership lists, voting rights and revenues
> From: "Patrick Gannon" <patrick.gannon@oasis-open.org>
> Date: Wed, January 03, 2007 2:24 pm
> To: "'Scott McGrath'" <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>, "'John Messing'"
> <jmessing@law-on-line.com>, "'Dee Schur'" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>
> Cc: <legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org>,
> <legalxml-chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
> John,
> 
> I believe that Scott and Dee have been working diligently to help make
sure
> the LegalXML MS roster is corrected and accurately reflects the current
voting
> rules of this MS.
> 
> I will note a slight difference in descriptions appearing on this email
list
> of who is eligible to be a Member Section Qualified Elector.  The current
> LegalXML MS RoP states:  
> 	"Three additional 'at large' steering committee members shall be
> elected by the set of all members of all OASIS LegalXML Technical
Committees
> who are also OASIS LegalXML Member Section members (those who have
requested
> OASIS LegalXML Member Section membership upon joining or renewing their
OASIS
> membership) or employees of such members."
> 
> Note that the RoP designation of who can vote in a LegalXML MS vote
includes
> those who are "Members" of LegalXML TCs, not just those who are  "Voting
> Members" of LegalXML TCs (in addition to being qualified due to the OASIS
> Individual/Organizational Member allocating a portion of their membership
> funds to the MS).
> 
> 
> Dee,
> Please be sure that those listed as a "Voting Member" of the LegalXML MS
> Roster (Member Section Qualified Elector) includes the qualified "TC
Members"
> not just qualified "TC Voting Members".
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalxml-ms/members/roster.php
> 
> 
> --
> Patrick Gannon
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott McGrath [mailto:scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:12 AM
> > To: 'John Messing'; 'Patrick Gannon'; 'James Clark'; 'Dee Schur'
> > Cc: legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> > legalxml-chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [legalxml-sc] Discrepancies in membership lists, 
> > voting rights and revenues
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I'll get a full reply on each member you are "missing", but 
> > you should know that several are known to me and our data is 
> > legitimate - examples of that are Dan Greenwood who, while 
> > was performing as chair, had no legitimate OASIS member 
> > account from ~ March 2006-January 2007.  New York State 
> > Office of the Court did not indicate on their Member 
> > Agreement that they desired to allocate funds-- we all can 
> > guess their intention, but the accounting process follows 
> > documentation, not intentions ;-)
> > 
> > Scott...
> > 
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: John Messing [mailto:jmessing@law-on-line.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:06 AM
> > >To: Patrick Gannon; James Clark; Dee Schur
> > >Cc: legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> > >legalxml-chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >Subject: [legalxml-sc] Discrepancies in membership lists, 
> > voting rights 
> > >and revenues
> > >
> > >Patrick et al:
> > >
> > >LegalXML is in the midst of an election for at large representatives 
> > >using a voting formula that was worked out between the 
> > secretary of the 
> > >steering committee and OASIS staff last year.
> > >
> > >In reviewing the lists of members compared with the voting 
> > list I noted 
> > >that there were the following entities and individuals who 
> > were listed 
> > >as eligible to vote but whose membership fees were never reported to 
> > >LegalXML and therefore presumably whose fees were not 
> > credited to our 
> > >available funds either during 2006 or as budgetary funds for 2007.
> > >
> > >They were the following entity members:
> > >
> > >EdiEyes
> > >New York State Office of Court Administration DoT Thales eSecurity 
> > >Thomson Corporation
> > >
> > >The following individuals fall into the same category:
> > >
> > >Chester Ensign
> > >Steffen Frederiks
> > >Eileen Wood
> > >
> > >I also found one reportedly paid entity member who did not 
> > appear as an 
> > >eligible voter for voting purposes on the ballot:
> > >
> > >Tata Consultancy Services , IN
> > >
> > >Since reporting these discrepancies to Dee and Cathie Mayo 
> > yesterday, I 
> > >recalled from memory the following active members who have 
> > not been put 
> > >on any lists and therefore do not appear to have paid fees, because 
> > >they were inadvertently deleted through KAVI during the year and 
> > >apparently were never reinstated despite requests to do so.
> > >
> > >Dan Greenwood, MIT, Chair of the eContracts TC
> > >
> > >Dave Marvit, Fujitsu, member of the steering committee from the 
> > >eContracts TC.
> > >
> > >I roughly estimate that as much as 10% of our revenues may have been 
> > >underreported as a result, which may be sorely needed by the 
> > EFTC for 
> > >publicizing its standard and both it and eNotary for 
> > consultancy work.
> > >
> > >In addition, we have had two false starts in our elections 
> > and there is 
> > >a current election now in progress.
> > >
> > >It is my intention to have the SC consider its various 
> > options at the 
> > >January 10 meeting. I request that staff be available to 
> > address these 
> > >concerns at that time. I understand that these omissions were likely 
> > >unintentional, but I believe the situation needs to be 
> > rectified at the 
> > >earliest possible time.
> > >
> > >Thank you.
> > >
> > >Best regards.
> > 
> >