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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>My view
of the purpose of the Court Document standard is that it is to tag the data
used by the clerk and/or court, the data that is of use to practitioners for
their own purposes, as well as for other purposes such as electronic service,
etc.&nbsp; I do not feel that those members of the TC interested in Court
Document should need to participate in a separate TC to ensure that the Court
Document standard meets our needs; the additional time to attend meetings of
multiple TCs is something that would be very difficult for many of us to
do.&nbsp; At this point, I strongly oppose separating Court Document out of the
Court Filing TC.&nbsp; My primary concern is that there would be even less
identification with the Court Filing TC as a whole than there has been in the
past.&nbsp; Unless someone makes a strong case for doing so, I would be voting
that I cannot live with a proposal to separate Court Document from Court
Filing.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Catherine
Krause </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>E-Filing Project Manager </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>King County Department of Judicial
Administration </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(206)296-7860 </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>catherine.krause@metrokc.gov </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a
href="mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>] </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Monday, May 05, 2003</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font
 size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>8:53 AM</span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: '</span></font><font size=2><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt'>courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>'; 'Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV' </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: RE: [courtfiling-doc]
Breaking Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>thanks
Roger for quick response, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>i would
suggest that the Court Filing stakeholders who have an interest in XML court
document standard consider joining a separate Court Document TC .... </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>i have
not seen demonstrated at the Court Filing meetings the &quot;close identification&quot;
between the two at the meetings i have attended.....&nbsp; the last set of
meeting notes to my mind indicate the opposite... that the court filing
envelope /transmission capability takes any BLOB... not exclusively a document
that authored/created based on XML technologies/standards.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>i would
welcome a list of reasons from you and/or other ECF stakeholders as to why the
document/filing components should remain in tandum.... </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>diane </span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV [<a
href="mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV">mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV</a>] </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Monday, May 05, 2003</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font
 size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>11:40 AM</span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: </span></font><font size=2><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt'>courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: RE: [courtfiling-doc]
Breaking Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Importance: Low </span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Diane, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I will,
of course, represent the ECF TC to the Steering Committee by conveying its
requests, recommendations, etc., there. There are, by the way, specific OASIS
procedures relating to the formation of Technical Committees, etc. Whatever
decisions are reached would be implemented within those procedures. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Now,
writing as an individual member of the ECF TC, I think this is the first time
I've heard a proposal to move the Court Document committee toward being its own
TC. I would think that Court Document needs to become more closely identified
with Court Filing, where many of its stakeholders are involved.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Roger Winters</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Electronic Court Records Manager </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>King County </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Department of Judicial
Administration </span></font><br>
  <font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>516 Third Avenue, E</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-609 MS: KCC-JA-0609 </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Seattle, Washington 98104 </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>V: (206) 296-7838 F: (206) 296-0906
</span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>roger.winters@metrokc.gov </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a
href="mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>] </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Monday, May 05, 2003</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font
 size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>8:08 AM</span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: </span></font><font size=2><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt'>courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: [courtfiling-doc] Breaking
Court Document out of Court Filing </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Roger, </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;i am addressing this message
through the court document filing SC...instead of directly to you.... so others
can provide their thoughts.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I would
like to request that you along with elected members to the LegalXML member
Section board... consider a realignment of Court Document ... instead of being
designated as a subcommittee under Court Filing.&nbsp; I propose that</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the
community consider it a separate TC....&nbsp;&nbsp; the charter for the </span></font><br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>subcommittee can be rewritten to
justify the need to place a definite boundary between court filing and court
document. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>i look
forward to learning your detailed views on this proposal as well as learning
the views of other court document SC members.</span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>thanks
for considering this idea.... diane </span></font></p>

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