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Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call


John:

Will our OASIS liaison be on the call tomorrow?  It might be best,
given this discussion, we step forward on solid footing.

Best Regards,

Robert T. DeFilippis
================
One Legal, Inc.
415-491-0606 x2216
rtd@onelegal.com 
================

-----Original Message-----
From: John Greacen [mailto:john@greacen.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:52 PM
To: TJSmith@ITDecision.com; Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com
Cc: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call

I formally place this item on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting.

 

John M. Greacen

Greacen Associates, LLC

HCR 78, Box 23

Regina, New Mexico 87046

505-289-2164

505-289-2163 (fax)

505-780-1450 (cell)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: T J Smith [mailto:TJSmith@ITDecision.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:47 PM
To: Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com
Cc: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call

 

Shane, I think the problem is a little broader than you can personally
take credit for.  :-)

 

As I read the OASIS guidelines, all of the SC's "technical discussions"
must be on OASIS lists, and all of it's work products in OASIS
repositories. 

 

TJS

 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com
[mailto:Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com]
	Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:34 AM
	To: TJSmith@ITDecision.com
	Cc: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
	Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call

	>> has been operating in violation of OASIS TC guidelines 

	This is entirely my fault.

	 

	I volunteered, and was assigned the task of periodically posting
the requirements sub-group's work-products to the OASIS site (in the
form of a consolidated PDF).

	 

	To date, I have not done so.  

	Not for any reason other than procrastination and
prioritization.

	 

	I'll try to do that be the end of today.

	- Shane

	 

	 

	
________________________________


	From: T J Smith [mailto:TJSmith@ITDecision.com] 
	Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:29 AM
	To: Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee
	Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call

	John and Tom,

	 

	I'd like you to add the issue I raised last conference call to
this agenda, that being that the Requirements Subcommittee has been
operating in violation of OASIS TC guidelines with respect to use of
non-OASIS facilities (at
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/guidelines.php).

		Because OASIS technical activities must be permanently
and publicly visible, TCs must conduct their technical discussions only
on the OASIS-provided lists. Moving any part of the TC's discussion to
any other facility (e.g. a member company's server, a TC member's
personal server, Yahoo groups, etc.) is not permitted.

		The TC must also use the OASIS-provided public and
private web pages. The use of a non-OASIS web page (e.g. at a dot-org on
a member company's server or a TC member's personal server, etc.) is not
permitted.

	Thank you,

	 

	TJS

	Tom Smith

	AVI/ITDecision

	tjsmith@itdecision.com

	650.591.1795 (Ofc)

	650.346.7689 (Mobile)

	650.591.1425 (Fax)

	 

		-----Original Message-----
		From: John Greacen [mailto:john@greacen.net]
		Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:00 AM
		To: Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee
		Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Tuesday conf call

		Our next teleconference is tomorrow.  Here are the
details for the call:

		 

		Leader's Name: John Greacen

		        Day/Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2004

		        Time of call: 1:00 to 2:00 pm Eastern time

		        Conference Dial-in: 512-225-3050

		        Conference Guest Code: 84759#

		        Number of lines needed: Anticipated Total = 40

		        Duration of the call: 1 Hour

		        Leader's Phone Number: 505-780-1450

		 

		This is the tentative agenda:

		 

		Status of consultant recruitment - Jamie Clark

		 

		Action on charter revision - John Greacen

		            (The KAVI vote total was 16 to 1 in favor of
the draft circulated, among 56 TC members and

		 prospective members.  Members raised on the list the
following issues - Should we remove 

		"Court" from our name to recognize electronic exchanges
of legal documents that may not include a

		 court? [No support, several oppositions]  Should we
remove electronic service of process from our 

		 charter since it is not within the scope of Court
Filing Blue? [No support, several opposed but a

		 request to maintain a record of the issue for future
standards releases].  Is there sufficient support

		 to present the revised charter to the OASIS Board?)

		 

		Status of Requirements Subcommittee tasks - Tom Clarke

		 

		       The current status of our requirements
development, as reported last month by the subcommittee chair, is as
follows:

		 

		1.       We have identified three components:  filing
assembly, filing review, court record.  These replace the old EFSP, EFM,
CMS nomenclature.

		 

		2.       We have identified four interfaces:  query,
transaction, event, and policy.  These more abstract titles better align
with the different types of technical transactions that need to occur
between components.  Think of this as being similar to the SOAP
messaging scenarios, which are also deliberately abstract.

		 

		3.       The technical, detailed or component use cases
(the names are fairly interchangeable) will be grouped by interface
category.

		 

		4.       Asynchronous transactions will not be viewed as
a non-functionality requirement.  Instead, we will pair use cases on the
interacting components that together complete the asynchronous exchange.
We still need to identify a use case descriptive mechanism for
identifying these pairs.

		 

		5.       Query interface use cases are all synchronous.

		 

		6.       Private components will not be addressed by E
Filing Blue.  Shane Durham has developed a nomenclature document that
includes an explanation of "private."

		 

		7.       The following outstanding tasks and schedules
are agreed to.  All tasks will be drafted by November 5th and presented
to the TC before the conference call on the 9th:

		-          Shane Durham will define draft e-service use
cases.

		-          Scott Came will detail the draft policy
interfaces.  Good drafts will be                               available
by the November 19th.

		-          Scott Came and Jim Cabral will resolve the
non-normative guidance for                            migration from
SOAP with Attachments to MTOM.

		-          Jim Cabral will describe the message types
and key contents.

		-          The group will review the ebMS profile and
its non-functional mapping                               done by John
Ruegg.  This has already been posted.

		-           Scott Came will revise all of the existing
detailed use cases per the
decisions above.

		-          Shane Durham will revise the functional
high-level use cases per the                                decisions
above.

		  

		Replacement of liaison to eGov - John Greacen

		            (John Ruegg offered to serve, with the
understanding that he would not attend meetings in DC.

		             Tom Carlson will determine whether the
National Center would support his serving, and attending

		             meetings.)

		 

		Status of Las Vegas face-to-face planning (Thursday and
half day Friday, December 16 and 17) - Robin Gibson

		 

		Suggested cancellation of December conference call in
light of face to face meeting two days later - John Greacen

		 

		Other items of interest to the members

		 

		 

		John M. Greacen

		Greacen Associates, LLC

		HCR 78, Box 23

		Regina, New Mexico 87046

		505-289-2164

		505-289-2163 (fax)

		505-780-1450 (cell)

		 



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