RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] FW: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and unstructured content in MS Word

[John Messing <jmessing@law-on-line.com>]

An alternative is Adobe's XFA format which enables XML schema's to
generate PDF layout documents. It is ideal for form-based documents.
This likely will be the document format structure that eNotary will use
for the layout of its form-based notary certificates, jurats and
acknowledgements.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] FW: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) :
> Mixing structured and unstructured content in MS Word
> From: "Hickman, Brian" <Brian.Hickman@wolterskluwer.com>
> Date: Fri, January 12, 2007 4:53 pm
> To: <legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org>, "O'Brien,Robert"
> <Robert.OBrien@cas-satj.gc.ca>
> 
> After reading Roger Winters and John Messing's posts on embedding
> structured and unstructured content in a pleading I thought I would ask
> Microsoft's XML team to recommend a method to add structured / machine
> readable content to an MS Word document that also contains unstructured
> / narrative content.  
> 
> I am forwarding Microsoft's response for your review.
> 
> Brian Hickman 
> Attorney
> Government Relations
> CT
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Jones (OFFICE) [mailto:brijones@exchange.microsoft.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: Adam Wiener; Michael Champion; Hickman, Brian; Steven Goulet; Doug
> Mahugh; Gray Knowlton
> Subject: RE: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and
> unstructured content in MS Word
> 
> Hi Brian,
> The model in both Word 2003 and 2007 is to allow you to add your custom
> XML markup to a Word document so that it lives alongside the formatting
> and layout information.
> The validation occurs on your schema on its own, even though there is
> also WordprocessingML whenever you save the file.
> 
> It's recommended that you leverage the Word structures as much as
> possible, and only add your own XML markup for persisting semantics that
> can't be captured with the Word model.
> I would also suggest learning more about the new content controls
> feature in Word 2007. This allows you to add more structure on top of
> your Word documents. There is a series of blog posts on the Word blog
> that cover this, and I just recently blogged about the post that covers
> mapping custom XML to content controls:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2007/01/10/the-power-of-data-v
> iew-separation-in-your-documents.aspx
> 
> 
> -Brian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Wiener
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 12:13 PM
> To: Adam Wiener; Michael Champion; brian.hickman@wolterskluwer.com;
> Brian Jones (OFFICE); Steven Goulet; Doug Mahugh; Gray Knowlton
> Subject: RE: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and
> unstructured content in MS Word
> 
> Adding Doug and Gray as well... XML Bloggers on bcc...
> 
> Thanks,
> Adam
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Wiener
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: Michael Champion; brian.hickman@wolterskluwer.com; Xml Team
> Bloggers; Brian Jones (OFFICE); Steven Goulet
> Subject: RE: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and
> unstructured content in MS Word
> 
> Looping in Brian Jones and Steven Goulet...
> 
> Can you please take a look at Mr. Hickman's question below?
> 
> Thanks,
> Adam
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Champion
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:29 PM
> To: brian.hickman@wolterskluwer.com; Xml Team Bloggers
> Subject: RE: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and
> unstructured content in MS Word
> 
> Thanks for your inquiry.  The people on this list are not Word experts,
> so I'll try to find someone in the Office team who can answer.  (Or, if
> one of you on the XML team does know the answer, feel free to chime in!)
> 
> I know that you can edit documents that conform to a custom schema in
> Word 2003 and 2007.
> http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2006/01/25/517739.aspx
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/03/11/XMLFiles/
> 
>  I don't know about mixing structured (custom schema) and unstructured
> (default Word schema) in one doc, however, if that is what you are
> asking.   Please let me know if you don't hear back from someone in
> Office in a timely manner and I'll try to follow up.
> 
> Mike Champion
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: brian.hickman@wolterskluwer.com
> [mailto:brian.hickman@wolterskluwer.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:42 PM
> > To: Xml Team Bloggers
> > Subject: (Microsoft XML Team's WebLog) : Mixing structured and
> unstructured
> > content in MS Word
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > I am a member of OASIS LegalXML's Electronic Court Filing Technical
> Committee
> > and an attorney with CT Corporation.  The  goal of the technical
> committee is
> > to develop standards to file documents electronically with courts.
> Today,
> > most documents produced by the legal industry are produced in MS Word.
> > Unfortunately, today, a human must read the document at the courthouse
> to
> > extract data from the document to populate the court's case management
> system.
> > My question is:  Can we integrate content that conforms to a custom
> data model
> > into MS Word such that structured content and unstructured content can
> reside
> > in the same document?  If the case management system could extract
> content
> > from an MS Word file that conformed to a customize data model (i'm
> thinking
> > along the lines of adding an MS Scheme that matched the court's
> requirements)
> > then an automated process could extract data directly from the MS Word
> file.
> >
> > If you look at a legal pleading you will see that some sections of the
> > document are structured and conform to a data model that conforms to a
> set of
> > rules expressed by the court in narrative format and some parts of the
> > document are almost unstructured, such a a paragraph of narrative.
> >
> > What approach would you recommend to allow attorneys to use the tool
> they are
> > familiar with, MS Word, and still embed some machine readable content
> within
> > the MS Word document?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Brian Hickman
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