OASIS Mailing List ArchivesView the OASIS mailing list archive below
or browse/search using MarkMail.

 


Help: OASIS Mailing Lists Help | MarkMail Help

legalxml-econtracts message

[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]


Subject: No Subject


<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>My =
view of
the purpose of the Court Document standard is that it is to tag the data =
used
by the clerk and/or court, the data that is of use to practitioners for =
their
own purposes, as well as for other purposes such as electronic service,
etc.&nbsp; I do not feel that those members of the TC interested in =
Court
Document should need to participate in a separate TC to ensure that the =
Court
Document standard meets our needs; the additional time to attend =
meetings of
multiple TCs is something that would be very difficult for many of us to
do.&nbsp; At this point, I strongly oppose separating Court Document out =
of the
Court Filing TC.&nbsp; My primary concern is that there would be even =
less
identification with the Court Filing TC as a whole than there has been =
in the
past.&nbsp; Unless someone makes a strong case for doing so, I would be =
voting
that I cannot live with a proposal to separate Court Document from Court
Filing.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thanks, </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Catherine
Krause </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>E-Filing Project Manager </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>King County Department of Judicial Administration =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>(206)296-7860 </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>catherine.krause@metrokc.gov </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp; </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>From: Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a =
href=3D"mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>]
</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:53 AM </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>To: 'courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org';
'Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV' </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Subject: RE: [courtfiling-doc] Breaking Court Document out =
of
Court Filing </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>thanks Roger
for quick response, </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>i =
would
suggest that the Court Filing stakeholders who have an interest in XML =
court
document standard consider joining a separate Court Document TC .... =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>i =
have not
seen demonstrated at the Court Filing meetings the &quot;close
identification&quot; between the two at the meetings i have =
attended.....&nbsp;
the last set of meeting notes to my mind indicate the opposite... that =
the
court filing envelope /transmission capability takes any BLOB... not
exclusively a document that authored/created based on XML
technologies/standards.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>i =
would
welcome a list of reasons from you and/or other ECF stakeholders as to =
why the
document/filing components should remain in tandum.... =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>diane </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>From: Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV [<a
href=3D"mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV">mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GO=
V</a>] </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:40 AM </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>To: courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Subject: RE: [courtfiling-doc] Breaking Court Document out =
of
Court Filing </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Importance: Low </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Diane, </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I =
will, of
course, represent the ECF TC to the Steering Committee by conveying its
requests, recommendations, etc., there. There are, by the way, specific =
OASIS
procedures relating to the formation of Technical Committees, etc. =
Whatever
decisions are reached would be implemented within those procedures. =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Now, writing
as an individual member of the ECF TC, I think this is the first time =
I've
heard a proposal to move the Court Document committee toward being its =
own TC.
I would think that Court Document needs to become more closely =
identified with
Court Filing, where many of its stakeholders are =
involved.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Roger Winters
</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Electronic Court Records Manager </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>King County </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Department of Judicial Administration </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>516 Third Avenue, E-609 MS: KCC-JA-0609 </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Seattle, Washington 98104 </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>V: (206) 296-7838 F: (206) 296-0906 </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>roger.winters@metrokc.gov </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp; </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>-----Original
Message----- </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>From: Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov [<a =
href=3D"mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov">mailto:Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov</a>]
</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:08 AM </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>To: courtfiling-doc@lists.oasis-open.org =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Subject: [courtfiling-doc] Breaking Court Document out of =
Court
Filing </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Roger, </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;i am addressing this message through the court =
document
filing SC...instead of directly to you.... so others can provide their
thoughts.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I =
would like
to request that you along with elected members to the LegalXML member =
Section
board... consider a realignment of Court Document ... instead of being
designated as a subcommittee under Court Filing.&nbsp; I propose =
that</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>the community
consider it a separate TC....&nbsp;&nbsp; the charter for the =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>subcommittee can be rewritten to justify the need to place =
a
definite boundary between court filing and court document. =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>i =
look
forward to learning your detailed views on this proposal as well as =
learning
the views of other court document SC members.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue =
1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>thanks for
considering this idea.... diane </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

</div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C31B35.F35582B0--



[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]