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Subject: Patent Post and eContracts TC Proposal
John Messing posted a link and abstract to a recent patent covering "legality expression". I wonder if anybody on the list has heard of this one or has any idea what it is supposed to cover and how relevent it is (or isn't) to this TC (or LegalXML in general). On the topic, I came upon an interesting phrase after scrolling through the claims at random. It seems to provide a mechanism for contracts language to "override" other laws (in the example given, the contract appears to trump an export law prohibiting sales of a Monkees episode). My burning question is: what the heck is that episode about and why was it prohibited for export? And also, why would the PTO grant a patent to technology that enables contracts to trump law when that violates basic jurisprudence of the USA and other common law countries? I include the snip from the patent below. Regarding the TC, I suggest it is time for some closure on the structural markup proposal. So, I would like to solicit comments or ideas on how and when to achieve an votable submission on structural markup. To get the ball rolling, here is one idea: that the subcommittee submit to the whole TC whatever it has agreed upon and whatever it has not (ideally, in the form of options) and that the TC appoint another group to cobble together a draft based on that submission. While the other group will not be as familiar with the problems and prospects, at least it will have fresh eyes and a deadline. The TC as a whole will then have a chance to debate, amend as needed, and finally vote upon a bounded and complete proposal. Also - can somebody please e-mail me with an update on the status of the Requirements Document? Rolly? Others? Thanks, - Dan Greenwood [0260] In an exemplary embodiment, a contract that overrides the law, for example, can be given by: [0261] "a) Amazon may sell `The Monkees` episodes, [0262] b) All sales of `The Monkees. The Time Machine` episode outside of the U.S. are prohibited, [0263] c) Amazon chooses to sell the episode outside of the U.S." [0264] Accordingly, it is a policy of Amazon that the clause 212 for selling "The Monkees" episodes is preferable to the clause 212 for banning sales of "The Monkees: The Time Machine" episode outside of the U.S. The exemplary policy/claim combination can be expressed using the exemplary Contract Expression Language, for example, as given by: 32 <policy> <claim> <clause licenseIdRef="licenseForSellingTheMonkeesEpsisodes"/> <precede/> <clause licenseIdRef="interdictForSellingTheM- onkees-TheTimeMachineEpsisode"/> </claim> +<signer licensePartId="Amazon"> </policy> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Messing" <jmessing@law-on-line.com> To: "Dr. Laurence Leff" <D-Leff@wiu.edu> Cc: <legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:56 PM Subject: RE: [legalxml-econtracts] Agenda for upcoming meeting from the OASIS Legal XML Member Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee Secretary (File id: @@2398) > NOTICE OF POSSIBLE PATENT CLAIMS > > United States Patent Application 20040049462, Assignee: ContentGuard, viewable online at the US Patent website > at > > http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2F netahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20040049462 .PGNR.&OS=DN/20040049462&RS=DN/20040049462 > > System and method for specifying and processing legality expressions > > > Abstract > A system and method are provided for specifying a legality expression for use in a system for processing the > legality expression. The system and method include providing a legality expression language, including at least > one of a duty element specifying an obligation that a principal must perform an act, a ban element specifying a > prohibition that a principal must not perform an act, an intent element specifying an intention that a > principal wants to perform an act, and a claim element specifying an assertion that a principal does perform an > act. The system and method further include interpreting by the system a legality expression specified using the > legality expression language. > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [legalxml-econtracts] Agenda for upcoming meeting from the > > OASIS Legal XML Member Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee > > Secretary (File id: @@2398) > > From: "Dr. Laurence Leff" <D-Leff@wiu.edu> > > Date: Mon, June 21, 2004 8:38 pm > > To: legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org > > > > Agenda for Conference Call > > Electronic Contracts Technical Committee of the > > OASIS Legal XML Member Section > > > > June 22nd 2004 > > 18:00 Eastern > > Dial 512 225 3050 - Use 84759# for Pin Code (*) > > > > > > 18:00:00 Tue Jun 22 2004 in America/New_York converts to > > 22:00:00 Tue Jun 22 2004 in GMT > > > > Welcome and Roll Call > > > > 1. Review our requirements document with the goal of reaching closure > > and/or determining what changes must be made so that we could vote > > on it. > > > > New Business > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > > of the OASIS TC), go to > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalxml-econtracts/members/lea ve_workgroup.php. > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalxml-econtracts/members/lea ve_workgroup.php. >
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