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Subject: Modified: Regular monthly LEXIDMA TC meeting

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Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC)

Submitter's message
proposed short minutes
-dF
-- Dr. David Filip

Event Title: Regular monthly LEXIDMA TC meeting

Date: Monday, 18 May 2020, 02:00pm to 03:00pm WEST
Location: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/lexidma/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3939
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Agenda

This preliminary agenda will be finalized by 11th May 2020.

1. Administrative

roll call
appoint scribe
approve minutes from previous meeting
https://markmail.org/message/n32su4wiu6ktwpfh

2. Material

DMLex Working Draft format Docbook template set up pending https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma

discuss normtaive keywords style

DMLex WD Technical discussion
- Based on technical contributions received by 11th May 2020
- Continue discussion of design principles and data model diagrams
  Miloš: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66840/LEXIDMA_ER_version1.pdf
- John: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma/wiki/Data-Model-based-on-OntoLex-TEI-Lex0
- Design principles: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma/wiki vs https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Goals_and_Scope_of_Ontology-Lexica_Community_Group#General_Requirements_on_the_Model
LEXIDMA TC liaisons and appointement of reps
- TEI Lex-0 appointement of rep pending

3. Closing Admin

Recap of agreed actions
AOB
Adjourn [no later than 1400 UTC]

Minutes

1. Administrative

roll call

Carole, Mark, John, Simon, Iztok, Ilan, Miloš, dF

appoint scribe

approve minutes from previous meeting
https://markmail.org/message/n32su4wiu6ktwpfh

Simon seconded dF move, no objections

2. Material

DMLex Working Draft format Docbook template set up pending https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma

discuss normtaive keywords style

skipped

DMLex WD Technical discussion
- Based on technical contributions received by 11th May 2020
  - None received
- Continue discussion of design principles and data model diagrams
  Miloš: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66840/LEXIDMA_ER_version1.pdf
- John: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma/wiki/Data-Model-based-on-OntoLex-TEI-Lex0
- Design principles: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/lexidma/wiki vs https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Goals_and_Scope_of_Ontology-Lexica_Community_Group#General_Requirements_on_the_Model

John's and Miloš's diagrams were discussed in parallel

Miloš spoke against recursibity in data models.

Short Link object intro and discussion:

Result of clarification: Link exists at Entry level, has source and target selector, also an attribute for type of relationship

Detailed discussion about POS, inflectional form and their relationship:

a possible @POS data model, instead of free form as proposed by Miloš

lex:NMTOKEN

[authority]:NMTOKEN

possible authority prefix examples:

[universal part of speech tagging]

upos:

clarin:

lemon:

[how to relate (inflectional) forms to POS?]

Morphology object with possible value pairs

@POS="[authority]:NMTOKEN"

@formsLink="[formsURI]"

example: @relationshipType="imperative"

dF summarized that John's and Miloš's diagrams serve as far points that need to be brought together before spec writing can start

the situation is really a triangle with Lemon<>Lex-0 zero being more fine grained, Miloba and Lemon being more prescriptive in allowed relationships -: better for industry interoperability

LEXIDMA TC liaisons and appointement of reps
- TEI Lex-0 appointement of rep pending

Ilan discussed shortly. Siomon confirmed that neither Laurent nor Toma are interested in LEXIDMA membership. Simon suggested that Iztok could serve as our liaison towards Lex-0. Iztok hasn't volunteered, yet..

3. Closing Admin

Recap of agreed actions
- John to provide version of Lex-0<>Lemon diagram that would reflect the Lemon restrictive set of relationships
- Miloš to amend his digram based on today's discussion
- All to continue discussion on mailing list and GitHub wiki
AOB
Adjourn [no later than 1400 UTC]

Owner: Dr. David Filip
Group: OASIS Lexicographic Infrastructure Data Model and API (LEXIDMA) TC
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