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Subject: Re: [mgmtprotocol] mptc minutes of Dec 4


The minutes are not quite correct.  Modifications are:
In this exercise, Ellen rendered CIM elements to WSDL elements using the 
CIM_OperatingSystem class, specifically focusing on the service data 
element definitions from the OGSI work.  This rendering is not a complete 
port type / service definition (doesn't yet account for other needed 
aspects such as identity and relationships to other port types, etc).
Conclusions: Ellen observes that in the portType rendering of the CIM_OperatingSystem 
class, some properties modifiable (CIM qualifier=WRITE) but are not marked 
as such and needs to be revisited in CIM. Port types also support multiple 
inheritance, which CIM does not.  It was also observed that it would be 
possible to enable CIM-to-WSDL mapping through a simple algorithmic tool, 
but this would not yield anything useful for implementation but rather 
only to provide a set on which to develop the port type and service 
definitions;  this is analogous to the observations and work done to map 
CIM to LDAP with useable LDIF definitions. 
Ellen





Hedyalb@aol.com
12/09/2002 12:30 PM

 
        To:     wbumpus@novell.com, mgmtprotocol@lists.oasis-open.org
        cc: 
        Subject:        [mgmtprotocol] mptc minutes of Dec 4

 

 
OASIS Management Protocol Technical Committee (SSJC)
Meeting Minutes 
Logistics
Roll-call
Other Business
Business In Order
Action Items & Motions 
References

Logistics 
Meeting Date
Dec 4, 2002
Meeting Time
7am PST
Location
Dial-in Number: 800 808 7889
International: 719 457 0701
Conference ID: 100346
Duration
1 Hour
Chair
Winston Bumpus
Recording Secretary
Hedy Alban
Agenda
As published [1]
Roll-call
2002
 
 
6-7 Nov (F2F)
20-Nov
3-Dec
Alan Davies
AD
SeeBeyond
N
N
N
Anand Akela
AA
HP
N
N
N
Andrea Westerinen
AW
Cisco
Y
regrets
regrets
Andreas Maier 
AM
IBM
Y
N
N
Aravinda Gollapudi
AG
Verisign
N
N
N
Darran Rolls 
DR
Waveset
N
N
N
Dennis Ho
DH
Iona
N
N
N
Dick Spellman
DS
Sun Microsystems Inc.
N
Y
regrets
Ellen Stokes 
ES
IBM
N
Y
Y
Fred Carter
FC
Amber Software
Y
Y
Y
George Arriola
GA
Talking Blocks
N
NLM
 
Gil Kirkpatrick
GK
NetPro 
Y
regrets
regrets
Guru Bhat
GB
Sun Microsystems Inc.
N
Y
Y
Heather KrIeger
HK
IBM
Y
Y
regrets
Hedy Alban
HED
Max Shevet Consulting
N
Y
Y
Homayoun Pourheidari
HP
HP
Y
N
N
Jim Willits
JW
HP
Y
Y
Y
Julie Schott
JS
Cisco
Y
Y
regrets
Ken Crozier
KC
Cisco
N
N
N
Karl Schopmeyer
KS2
Independent
Y
Y
regrets
Krishna Sankar
KS1
Cisco
N
N
N
Michael Thatcher 
MT
Microsoft
N
N
N
Robert Baafi
RB
Iona
N
N
N
Richard Nikula
RN
BMC
Y
Y
Y
Sekhar Saukkai 
SS
Corporate Oxygen Inc.
N
WARN
Y
Srinivas Vadhri
SV
CommerceOne
N
WARN
N
Samiar Vaidya *
SV
Talking Blocks
Y
Y
N
Veena Subrahmanyam
VS
HP
Y
N
Y
Winston Bumpus
WB
Novell
Y
Y
Y
Yoshimasa Masuoka
YM
Hitachi
Y
Y
Y
 
 
 
 
 
 
New Members
 
 
 
 
 
Bart Whitely
BW
Caldera International
N
WARN
N
Ben Bloch
BB
Inteq
Y
N
N
Bill Dunigan
BD
Cyclone Commerce
N
N
N
Dmitri Tcherevik
DT
CA 
N
N
Y
George Erricson
GE
EMC
N
WARN
N
Igor Sedukhin
IS
 
N
WARN
N
Jeff Boulin
 
WebMethods
N
REM
 
Jim Davis
JD
Sun
N
WARN
N
Ken Fife
KF
Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA)
N
N
N
Kevin Brinkley 
KB
Intel
N
REM
 
Ravi Fernando
RS
HP
N
N
N
Takaki Kuroda
TK
Hitachi
N
N
N
 
 
 
 
 
 
WARN: attendance warning issued
 
 
 
 
 
REM: removed from list
 
 
 
 
 
Other Business
WB
None
 
Business In Order
 
Approve minutes of Nov. 20
 
Approved
 

 
Review WSDL 1.2 porttypes using the Operating system class from CIM 2.7 
preliminary schema
 
 
In this exercise, Ellen mapped CIM elements to WSDL elements, using also 
some service data elements coming out of OGSI. 
 
Conclusions: Ellen concludes that, aside for some small items for which CIM does not 
have a vocabulary (e.g., you cannot indicate in CIM whether or not service 
data is modifiable), it would be possible to enable CIM-to-WSDL mapping 
through a simple algorithmic tool, but the CIM does not contribute 
anything useful from a programmatic point of view. 
 
Discussion: The TC discussed:
§         The difficulty of supporting multi-model environments and the requirement 
for a model-agnostic specification. 
§         The advantages and disadvantages of building on the work of the OGSI, W3C, 
DMTF, and other locations. Are we ready to build on this 
works-in-progress, given that they have not yet been approved by any 
standards organizations?
 
Action: At the next TC meeting, we will continue this discussion, narrowing in on 
possible proposals for the future work of this committee. Continued 
discussion via e-mail is encouraged since Ellen will be unavailable after 
Dec. 16.
 
 
 
Other Business
 
Plan for F2F
 
Veena will move forward with arrangements, report at next meeting
 
Use Cases
 
Nikula would like a discussion that maps use cases to Heather's pcitures. 
We will put on the agenda for next week.
 
 

 
Motion to adjourn
 
Meeting adjourned at 8am PST to reconvene December 11th  at 10am PST
Action Items & Motions
 
Owner
Action Item
 
Veena
Arrangements for F2F
 

 
Motions 
 
 
None
 
References
[1] published agenda URL




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