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Subject: Re: [mqtt] MQTT v3.1.1 working draft 19 now available.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Richard J Coppen <COPPEN@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
Hi Ian,

All TC documents are public and can be accessed via this link from the OASIS MQTT TC public page > https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=mqtt <

Hello Richard (Raphael, Geoff, other MQTTers):

It's true that URI references as listed from the TC public page are public-access URIs.

The problem arises when TC list email messages, published TC documents, and notices identify the resources with OASIS Member-only (password-protected) links, and these messages are sent to the public archives, or are forwarded to outsiders, or quoted in the press, etc.  Publishing password-protected "links" confuses/annoys/disappoints the average person, creating the impression that OASIS resources are private-read-only: readers may think: feh, so not "OASIS Open" but "OASIS Closed".

Obviously, the core problem is that the OASIS ((Kavi) collaboration tools invite the citation of password-protected URI references: that's not the fault of TC members.

The remedy (for now)?  TC Chairs, Secretaries, Editors, and others need to exercise care to always cite the public-access URI reference for a resource rather than the password-protected member-only variant URI reference.  Using the public tools/interfaces is the easiest way to ensure that we select the public-access URIs.

Discussion list archives: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/mqtt/
Kav Documents: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=mqtt
Ballots: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ballots.php?wg_abbrev=mqtt
Events/meetings: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=mqtt

Details are provided below [1] for citing the public-access URIs.


- Robin Cover

[1]  http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/ndr/namingDirectives.html#accessibleURIs

Publicly Accessible URIs

In support of the OASIS TC Process rules for public access/visibility of all TC resources, TC Members must be careful to select an appropriate form of a URI reference to ensure that a cited resource is publicly accessible from that URI reference. The OASIS member-only (private, password-protected) URI references created by OASIS [Kavi] tools must not be cited in TC mailing list messages, Wiki pages, TC public web pages, JIRA tickets, specifications, meeting minutes, or in any TC "documents" that are or may become public.

In some cases, the mechanical transform from a member-only (private) URI to the correct public URI can be made by replacing the substring 'apps/org/workgroup/{tc-shortname}/' with 'committees'. Alternately, TC members may select the public-access URIs using select/copy+paste of relevant URI references from the public-access indexes as presented on the TC public home page, "Related links" display (Documents, Email Archives, Comments Archive, Ballots, Schedule). For Group ballots (specific ballots and ballot listings), publishing both the member-only and public-access ballot URI is best, since they are useful for different purposes. Here are URI examples for documents, email messages, ballots, and calendar entries, together with document/email archive URIs for the TC public-access indexes:


Email message

TC ballot listing

TC individual ballot

TC calendar entry


Many thanks


Richard Coppen CEng FBCS  IBM United Kingdom
Software Engineer  Hursley Park
WebSphere MQ  Winchester
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Phone: +44 (0)1962 817164  England
e-mail: coppen@uk.ibm.com  
blog: testingblues.com  

From:        "Ian Skerrett" <ian.skerrett@eclipse.org>
To:        Andrew Banks/UK/IBM@IBMGB, <mqtt@lists.oasis-open.org>,
Date:        06/03/2014 13:29
Subject:        RE: [mqtt] MQTT v3.1.1 working draft 19 now available.
Sent by:        <mqtt@lists.oasis-open.org>

Is there a version of the working draft that is available for anyone to review, not just TC members. The link you provided required an OASIS login.


-----Original Message-----
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mailto:mqtt@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Andrew Banks
Sent: March-06-14 7:07 AM
To: mqtt@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [mqtt] MQTT v3.1.1 working draft 19 now available.

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