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Subject: Re: [oasis-member-discuss] RE: RDDL use in ASIS


Chris -

The point...I think:

I'd be inclined to recommend/suggest but not mandate RDDL at this time, but with your (Chris's) enhancements.

Some have expressed concern about the stability of RDDL; I think that it's been stable since 2004 (i.e., no one is apparently working on it)...maybe it's so stable it's dead?

Oh, and there's yet another version (get this) at

    http://rddl.org/index   (Dated January 22, 2001)
so that makes three versions just at rddl.org, the other two being
    http://rddl.org/index.html (and, as one would expect, http://rddl.org)   (Dated February 18, 2002)
and
    http://rddl.org/rddl2   (dated January 18, 2004) (this is the shortest document)

Just to keep in the current IPR mood, there are no IPR declarations or copyright on any of them.

bill



Christopher B Ferris wrote:

And the point being?

Christopher Ferris
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"Hal Lockhart" <hlockhar@bea.com> wrote on 03/02/2006 05:12:51 PM:

> > | What do others think? As I said, there was a lot of pushback on
> RDDL.
> >
> > I don't recall reading the pushback on RDDL, but "and preference to
> > have an index.html or one of the other default HTML pages" isn't
> > related. RDDL is a mechanism for placing metadata in HTML.
>
>
> Ok, for the record, last summer Bill and I tried to figure out the
> standards pedigree of RDDL so we could cite it.
>
> No sign of it at W3C, not even published as a Note.
>
> At www.rddl.org, there is a spec dated Feb 18, 2002, no version
> specified. I guess this is version 1.
>
> At http://www.openhealth.org/RDDL/20040118/rddl-20040118.html there is a
> spec dated Jan 18, 2004 marked as version 2.0. It describes itself as "a
> draft".
>
> At http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl/rddl3.html there is a document dated
> June 1, 2003, with no version. Not sure what version this is. Perhaps
> Tim's private version? If it is RDDL 3, it is older than RDDL 2.0.
>
> All of these contain the sentence "This document has no official
> standing and has not been considered nor approved by any organization."
>
> There are also a number of articles, implementations and even a
> Wikipedia article (which points to the 2002 version). The 2004 version
> says "While this document has no official standing, it is the intention
> of the TAG to seek guidance from the W3C membership and the larger
> community on the question of whether and how to progress this document
> and the use of RDDL." As far as I can see there has been no work done on
> RDDL in 2 years.
>
> Will the real RDDL please stand up? If this is as great stuff as you all
> say it is, can't somebody put in enough time to push it thru an OASIS TC
> or publish it as a TAG Finding? If I put a normative reference to
> something with a pedigree like this in an OASIS Committee Spec and
> submitted it for member approval, I would end up with a bunch of arrows
> sticking out of me.
>
> Hal
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