RE: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting rules - inputrequested

[Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>]

+1

The number of votes that an organization
gets is completely orthogonal to the level, quality and
quantity of debate. I don't think that
the proposal is that the TCs be limited in their representation/participation.
Just the voting itself. The W3C seems
to do effectively limiting one vote to each organization.

Frankly, there are too many cases where
TC participation is stacked purely for the purposes of
voting. This can make achieving quorum
difficult, at times. 

Quantity != Quality

Cheers,

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
phone: +1 508 377 9295

"Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com>
wrote on 10/29/2006 09:41:23 AM:

> Nothing about one company one vote precludes open discussion.
> 
> Eric
>  
> +1 781 902 8366
> fax: +1 781 902 8009
> blog: http://blogs.iona.com/newcomer 
> Making Software Work Together (TM)
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:41 AM
> To: David RR Webber (XML)
> Cc: Newcomer, Eric; oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change to TC voting
> rules - input requested
> 
> David
> 
> I agree that it is much more useful for companies members to have
the 
> discussion in the open within a TC. The cases I have seen where the
> discussion is in the open, the TC has been able to understand that
> position and move forwards much more easily.
> 
> Paul
> 
> David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
> > Eric,
> >  
> > I'm not completely following what you are saying here?  Why
should we 
> > be eliminating committee debate?
> >  
> > Having just one company - one vote - is likely to mean that companies
> > invest LESS effort in committees - and surely that is a bad thing?
 
> > Also bad is the notion that company staff cannot freely work
out 
> > differences in the TC process - or participate openly - for me
that is
> 
> > the essense of what OASIS is - not fettered by company mandates
- but 
> > open peer review. 
> >  
> > I'd hate to see the situation where we are institutionalizing
> > companies working behind closed doors to determine their own
> > position(s) and then bringing that to the TC.  Much better
that the TC
> 
> > foster open debate.
> >  
> > OASIS is supposed to be a public process that maximizes 
> > participation  - how is what you are saying in alignment
with that?
> >  
> > Thanks, DW
> >
> >
> >     -------- Original Message --------
> >     Subject: [oasis-member-discuss] FW: Possible change
to TC voting
> rules
> >     - input requested
> >     From: "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com>
> >     Date: Fri, October 27, 2006 3:53 pm
> >     To: <oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >
> >     I think a one company one vote rule would be an
improvement.  It
> would
> >     help eliminate some amount of committee debate
(especially among
> >     representatives of the same company) and help streamline
votes.  
> >
> >     Eric
> >
> >     +1 781 902 8366
> >     fax: +1 781 902 8009
> >     blog: http://blogs.iona.com/newcomer
> >     Making Software Work Together (TM)
> >
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: member_services@oasis-open.org
> >     [mailto:member_services@oasis-open.org]
> >     Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 6:57 PM
> >     To: Newcomer, Eric
> >     Subject: Possible change to TC voting rules - input
requested
> >
> >     Dear IONA Technologies* Primary Contact
> >
> >        Please look at the following message
about a possible change to
> TC
> >     voting rules:
> >
> >     http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oasis-member-discuss/
> >     email/archives/200610/msg00000.html
> >
> >       and if you are so inclined please respond
as requested to oasis-
> >     member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
> >
> >
> >       thanks,
> >        jeff
> >     --
> >     Jeff Mischkinsky
> >     jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com
> >     Director, Web Services Standards
> >     +1(650)506-1975
> >     Consulting Member Technical Staff    
     
> >     500 Oracle Parkway, M/S 4OP9
> >     Oracle
> 
> >     Redwood Shores, CA 94065 
> >
> 
> -- 
> Paul Fremantle
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> 
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