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Subject: Pre-Meeting comments on NBIMS/oBIX Summit
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A few folks are very specific, a
few are just interested, and a few hope like anything we figure it out to solve
some current problems they have. As for me, v1.0 of oBIX is, and had
to be, about solving control problems first. It has done that by creating a low
level, simple, extensible framework for operational configuration, monitoring,
and alarms. oBIX v1.0 has defined a simple means of defining contracts to
specify which system(s) someone wishes to interact with. This work was bottom up The next challenge for oBIX is to
define standard contracts, to create a higher level of abstraction. This work
must be top-down, and it appears that one of the higher level perspectives is
NBIMS. I think higher lever standard contracts will morph, with experience,
into abstract interfaces, and these interfaces will be the basis for true
enterprise interactivity. I very much want control systems to
become part of the design, for energy models to comission the design, for
building conmmmissioning that commissions the construction be mappable to the design-based
energy model, and for live modeling to be comprable to design model and the
commissioning model. I think that this level of
abstraction will be essential to maintaining warrantability of each system in
multi-system buildings installed by different contactors while enabling
corrdination of intelligent buildings to dance with the intelligent power grid
envisioned by GridWise. And I think it will be worthwhile
each step of the way as we feel out the next step. Talk to you at 1. (eastern time) tc I am a senior architect at
Merrick and Company and have been tracking the NBIMS initiative since last
August as part of a 9 month research effort, which has led us to begin implementing
BIM company-wide using the Autodesk Revit software platform for architecture,
structural, and MEP design. My reason for attending: I
and our lead mechanical engineer are both interested in keeping up to date with
progress on interoperability between software platforms for the future of the
AEC industry, and your comments regarding “Energy modeling
scenarios” and “common Energy Model from Design to Commission to
Operations” caught my eye, as I see the potential uses for BIM in
sustainable design. We would be participating in this summit initially as
interested professionals, yet by the end we may have questions. We bring no NBIMS or other
interoperability expertise to the table, although I am reviewing the NBIMS
Version 1, Part 1 in depth, with a goal of joining the consensus committee in
the near future. Regards, Robert S. Huston, RA, NCARB Senior Architect - BIM
Technology Coordinator Merrick & Company Building Quality Solutions Engineers and Architects 2450 S. Peoria St. Aurora, CO 80014 Direct 303-353-3613 Office 303-751-0741 Fax
303-751-2581 I figure I will put in my two cents also: In looking at the total lifecycle picture of a BIM, the development
through planning, design, construction and commissioning puts the model in
place to be a valuable spatial tool to the operator and sustainer. Not
only does one have accurate detailed information about the facility but they
also have the design intent and analysis that went into the design.
Having an energy audit capability, using sensors designed to operate the
facility, can provide a non-gaming metric to ensure that in fact the facility
is being operated as it was intended. Linking this with other
infrastructure aspects including information technology, network operations and
physical security monitoring provides a rather complete model of the facility
that can be used by a full time operations center for larger facilities or
campus type environments. All of this can easily and cost effectively be
done today with significant and demonstrated return on investment.
Thank
you. Mr.
Dana K. "Deke" Smith, RA Hi
Toby/All, I’d
also like to participate in this discussion as well as we look for integration
roadmaps for all of us to exchange data across the supply chain. Here’s
a link to our latest document describing our list of data standards development
Work Groups. http://www.oscre.org/news/OSCRE_WorkGroups22MAR07_22032007.pdf There
will be a large number of industry supply chain stakeholders currently
participating with OSCRE that will benefit from oBIX-NBIMS-OGC-ICC-IAI &
others interoperability. Conversely, our constituents will have a lot to
contribute to the BIM. I
look forward to the discussion. Best
Regards, Andy Andy Fuhrman CEO Open Standards Consortium for Real Estate (OSCRE) 799 Summit Drive Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Tel. 831.458.3346 Email: Andy.Fuhrman@oscre.org MSN-IM: Andy_Fuhrman@hotmail.com Skype: andyfuhrman Website: http://www.oscre.org The
common model, no limits, seems that oBIX has many key bits of information
that need to be included in the whole life cycle info sharing bit. As
a multidiscipline Architectural / Engineering firm with many clients for life,
we see the connection (or lack of) between the way systems are designed /
engineered and the way systems are operated. Seems that ways of sharing
information along these lines should be fleshed out to be of help in the
efficient operations of the facility. Basically, I would like to know more
about oBIX. Thanks,
HDR ONE COMPANY |
Many Solutions I
believe National Institutes of Health (NIH) with it main Campus in Bethesda,
MD, USA, is the largest Research Health Facility in the World. NIH
facilities include over 150,000,000 Square Meter of buildings (close to
90,000,000 Square Meter of the space at the Bethesda Campus in Maryland, USA). We
require Building Information Modeling (BIM) on our new large projects;
currently we have two (2) large projects and one small project under design in
BIM. We utilize GIS and Facility Management Software, and we find the
efforts of FIC-BIM and its participant and all its supporting vendors and
consultants helpful to our needs and goals, including our BIM-GIS-FM approach
for Total Facility Design Construction and Operation. The efforts of OSCRE
STRATEGY
AND PLANNING METRICS WORK GROUP (SPM-WG), will have direct impact to our Facility
Management and will provide support to Federal Real Property Council (FRPC) and its data reporting
requirement per executive order 13327. Regards, Reza
Jafari, P.E. National
Institutes of Health Office
of Research Facilities 13
South Drive Bethesda,
MD 20892-5759 Tel:
(301) 435-9384 Cell
(301) 252-8861 We do a lot
of work integrating FM and GIS for space and asset management and are very
interested in the oBIX initiatives and the convergence of these technologies. David A. Jordani,
FAIA President JORDANI
CONSULTING GROUP 12 S. Sixth
Street, Suite 914 Minneapolis,
MN 55402 612.333.9222;
612.220.0780 (Cell) Reasons I am at this meeting… There is a growing realization that
a significant convergence is occurring around the subject of
“buildings”, not only on technology terms but also in the
stakeholders around buildings. This meeting seems to be another thread in such
trend. I would like to frame all of this under an umbrella of “Buildings
2.0”. See http://automatedbuildings.com/news/apr07/articles/clasma/070320114020budiardjo.htm I’d like to encourage oBIX,
NBIMS, OSCRE and other stakeholders to further develop the Buildings 2.0
concept in Chicago this May. Cheers, Anto... Anto Budiardjo - President &
CEO, Clasma Events Inc. Email antob@clasma.com
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BuilConn, M2M Expo, Wi-tivity, GridWise Expo, ibX Forum You asked >: “Why am I
attending?” Great question, and I hope this
is not too “academic”. As a consumer (and not a vendor)
I simply need to convince 4 people or more to buy into this emerging building
& energy control standards Roadmap. The more I understand and can
semantically model at the enterprise level and at the technical level, the more
successful will be my arguments for policy and behavioral changes. Cheers, Bob ============================== Bob Smith, Ph.D. Ontology Projects Manager Tall Tree Labs, HB, CA. Professor Emeritus, CSU (Environmental Board, City of
HB) (714) 536-1084 From: Brian Frank
[mailto:bfrank@tridium.com] I don't think we have a concrete agenda - if they have
ideas about how to integrate with oBIX then that sounds great. I like the agenda and would like to join the meeting. Omer. Omer Akin, PhD, Professor of Architecture, Carnegie
Mellon University, 5000 Forbes Avenue, Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890, USA; (v) +(1)
412 268 3594; (f) +(1) 412 268 7507 Please
count us in. THANKS. Best
regards, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This email was sent to the FIC-BIM listserv by Edward
Acker <acker@swinter.com>. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'd like to participate, tho not as technically savvy. Ed Acker LonMark is interested in this liaison meeting to
determine where oBIX and NBIMS overlap. At that region of overlap, we hope to
lend a hand dovetailing oBIX into the NBIMS project goals; driving not only
NBIMS forward but oBIX as well. The results of those efforts should be a model
that allows underlying-control technologies like LonWorks to be integrated with
the enterprise and architectural -systems' representation/storage that NBIMS
intends to standardize. NBIMS is a project with which our staff has yet to
become involved. This liaison may provide that introduction for us. Talk to you at the meeting. Best Regards, Jeremy J. ROBERTS, Technical Director LONMARK International - http://www.lonmark.org/
Technical Office - mailto:tech@lonmark.org
PO Box 268, Jamison PA 18929-0268, USA T: +1 215 918-1026 . F: +1 215 918-1027 I'm
interested in attending the call -- any additional information you could send
me on oBIX would be helpful. I hope you will include the call information
on the agenda. Thanks. Greg Ceton Technical Program Manager "It is the theory
that decides what can be observed." -
Albert Einstein
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