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Subject: RE: [obix] Nag nag RE: Action Items (UNCLASSIFIED) schemas
WSDL is part of SOAP, and not of any other Binding. The XSD's define the information model common to all while defining the expression of that model in XML, so they, and they alone, are in the Core. "When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell Toby Considine Chair, OASIS oBIX TC Editor, OASIS EMIX, Energy Interoperation Finance & Administration IT University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu Phone: (919)962-9073 http://www.oasis-open.org http://www.NewDaedalus.com -----Original Message----- From: obix@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:obix@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of William Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 11:54 AM To: obix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [obix] Nag nag RE: Action Items (UNCLASSIFIED) schemas There are at least two things we need to consider. (1) The 1.1 schemas have not been updated since June. An updated (==reformatted) document may be useful, if only to clarify the relationships for the text. I'd rather wait for a schema update, however - the issue is "beautify the June schemas" or "show the new schemas". (2) The wsdl also includes schemas; I've not yet compared those to the obix.xsd from June. Guidance on what's in 1.1 and what's accessory to Websockets/SOAP would be useful so I can plan. Thanks again! bill On 10/30/13 10:09 AM, Bogen, Chris ERDC-RDE-ITL-MS wrote: > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > Caveats: FOUO > > I did indeed post a couple of issues to JIRA regarding the schema, but they should not be too controversial. I'm also not sure that making my suggested changes would impact the UML diagram, but since it is under review it is probably best to wait. I am willing to make my suggested changes in a new draft of the core schema, but I doubt I can get this done before tomorrow. I'm still playing catch up at the office after my time at home. > > -chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: obix@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:obix@lists.oasis-open.org] On > Behalf Of Toby Considine > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:26 AM > To: 'Gemmill, Craig'; obix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [obix] Nag nag RE: Action Items > > I don't think we need an updated diagram for the next WD > > > > We have agreed (per my notes) that we are not going to build a table of contents into the UML, the improved layout for section 4 handles that. Updating the UML before the schema changes arrive (or a PR) is just make-work. > > > > I understand we are getting schema comments this morning. They will certainly generate conversation. There is a tension between Good Practice (as understood in 2013), Simplicity, and Backwards Compatibility which will certainly lead to lively discussion. > > > > If you can come up with the improved lobby and/or the rest of the comment back-log, we would like to see it. > > > > The one impediment is that we know that the Watch is being "perfected" in Web Sockets. That will come back into the core, in some form, in the narrative. It may result in a Schema change or two, as well. That may in turn modify the UML. > > > > Will we need some schema for the Lobby elements? Don't know. It's possible. > > > > This is a long way of saying that I'd welcome seeing what you've got. > > > > tc > > > > ________________________________ > > "If something is not worth doing, it`s not worth doing well " -- Peter Drucker > > ________________________________ > > Toby Considine > TC9, Inc > > OASIS TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar > > OASIS TC Editor: EMIX, Energy Interoperation > > SGIP Smart Grid Architecture Committee > > > > Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com <mailto:Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu> > Phone: (919)619-2104 > > http://www.tcnine.com > blog: http://www.NewDaedalus.com > > > > From: Gemmill, Craig [mailto:craig.gemmill@tridium.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:32 AM > To: Toby Considine; obix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [obix] Nag nag RE: Action Items > > > > I've got some changes done on the core. This would be WD17. I am holding off until we have an updated diagram. But it appears from Bill's note that the diagram is held up by the schemas. Do we need any updates on those? > > > > From: obix@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:obix@lists.oasis-open.org] On > Behalf Of Toby Considine > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:16 PM > To: obix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: [obix] Nag nag RE: Action Items > > > > Reminder about the items below. > > > > Ludo submitted WD06 of Web Sockets. It may include some work from Matthias as well. > > > > As for the other work, if we plan to discuss it Thursday, we should get it soon. > > > > tc > > > > ________________________________ > > "If something is not worth doing, it`s not worth doing well " -- Peter Drucker > > ________________________________ > > Toby Considine > TC9, Inc > > OASIS TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar > > OASIS TC Editor: EMIX, Energy Interoperation > > SGIP Smart Grid Architecture Committee > > > > Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com <mailto:Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu> > Phone: (919)619-2104 > > http://www.tcnine.com > blog: http://www.NewDaedalus.com > > > > From: Toby Considine [mailto:Toby.Considine@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:38 PM > To: obix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Action Items from Today's Meeting > > > > Action Items from Today's Meeting: > > > > * Chris to review XML Schemas (XSD) > > * Craig to Re-cast and Expand Lobby > > * Matthias to finish Watches with an eye towards the Web Sockets Watch model being incorporated into the core > > * Bill to update UML > > * Ludo to reformat exampled in Web Sockets 2.1.5 for improved readability, submit to Matthias (by way of OASIS) > > > > We want to have all documents ready for the next meeting with 24-48 hours post-ahead time. For submissions that will be incorporated into someone else's work (Ludo, Bill, please allow another 24 hours for that. > > > > Thanks > > > > tc > > > > ________________________________ > > "Energy and persistence conquer all things." -- Benjamin Franklin > > ________________________________ > > Toby Considine > TC9, Inc > > OASIS TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar > > OASIS TC Editor: EMIX, Energy Interoperation > > SGIP Smart Grid Architecture Committee > > > > Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com <mailto:Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu> > Phone: (919)619-2104 > > http://www.tcnine.com > blog: http://www.NewDaedalus.com > > > > > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > Caveats: FOUO > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. 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