RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2015-10-22 - chat transcript

["Handl, Ralf" <ralf.handl@sap.com>]

Room information was updated by: Stefan

Please register yourself for the OData TC call at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39121

 

Stefan: Current registration status: Voting Members: 1 of 13 (7%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Room Information:

Please register yourself for the OData TC call at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39121

 

Stefan: Current Registration Status: Voting Members: 2 of 13 (15%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Mike Pizzo: I'm going to have to step out for the first 30 minutes or so -- my wife just had knee surgery and I need to tend to some stuff at home.  Should you get to it in my absence, I am in favor of a motion to progress the Aggregation Extensions, with applied errata, to CS.

 

anonymous morphed into Matt Borges (SAP)

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Oh my, hope she gets well soon!

 

Stefan: ... Registration: Voting Members: 5 of 13 (38%) (used for quorum calculation)

Stefan: ... Registration: Voting Members: 6 of 13 (46%) (used for quorum calculation)

Stefan: We are quorate 

Stefan: Voting Members: 7 of 13 (53%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): 2.Approve agenda [8:05am PT]

Ralf Handl (SAP): postpone topic 4 (action items) until Mike joins

Ralf Handl (SAP): 3.Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]

Ralf Handl (SAP): a.Minutes from October 15, 2015 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56708/odata-meeting-109_on-20151015-minutes.html

Ralf Handl (SAP): Minutes are approved

Ralf Handl (SAP): 5.Extension for Data Aggregation [8:20am PT]

Ralf Handl (SAP): a.Review documents

i.Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56704/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.docx 

ii.Summary of changes: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56703/odata-data-aggregation%20CSD03%20Summary%20of%20Non-Material%20Changes%202015-10-16.docx 

iii.ABNF Changes: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/ABNF/odata-aggregation-abnf.txt?op=diff&rev=729 

iv.ABNF Testcases: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/ABNF/odata-aggregation-testcases.xml?op=diff&rev=752

Ralf Handl (SAP): https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/

Ralf Handl (SAP): b.Issues for Data Aggregation in Applied state

i.ODATA-833            Example 40 applies term RecursiveHierarchy term incorrectly

ii.ODATA-851            groupby(): ABNF still allows more than two parameters

iii.ODATA-857            Example 5: use two aggregate expressions

iv.ODATA-860            Move definition of Custom Aggregation Method to separate subsection.

v.ODATA-866            3.14 Transformation compute: add reference to numeric promotion rules

vi.ODATA-871            Clarify odata.type for Compute and Aggregate

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I move that we close ODATA-833, ODATA-851, ODATA-857, ODATA-860, ODATA-866 and ODATA-871 as applied

 

Ramesh Reddy(Redhat): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-833, ODATA-851, ODATA-857, ODATA-860, ODATA-866 and ODATA-871 are CLOSED as applied

Ralf Handl (SAP): c.Review zip file

i.https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56706/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.zip

 

Ramesh Reddy(Redhat): btw, how are the test cases executed?

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I have verified that the zip file contains the following documents

odata-aggregation-abnf.txt

odata-aggregation-testcases.xml

odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16-final.docx

Mark Biamonte (Progress): odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16-redlined.docx

Org.OData.Aggregation.V1.xml

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I opened each document and verified that the odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16-redlined.docx document had the changes just discussed

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Sven Kobler-Morris

Ralf Handl (SAP): d.Approve CSD03 with non-material changes to CS02 

i.Sample motion: I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve  OData Extension for Data Aggregation Version 4.0 Working Draft 04 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56706/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.zip as a Committee Specification. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56707/odata-data-aggregation%20CSD03%20Summary%20of%20Non-Material%20Changes%202015-10-16-final.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#dNonmaterialChange).

 

Ramesh Reddy(Redhat): I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve  OData Extension for Data Aggregation Version 4.0 Working Draft 04 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56706/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.zip as a Committee Specification. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56707/odata-data-aggregation%20CSD03%20Summary%20of%20Non-Material%20Changes%202015-10-16-final.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#dNonmaterialChange).

 

Ted Jones (Red Hat): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Motion passes

Ralf Handl (SAP): 6.JSON Format for CSDL [9:00am PT]

Ralf Handl (SAP): a.Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in New or Open state

i.ODATA-872            Consider defining structure of bound actions/functions

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-872 is OPEN

Ralf Handl (SAP): b.Review documents

i.Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56709/odata-json-csdl-v4.0-wd01-2015-10-16.docx 

ii.EDM JSON Schema: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/schemas/edm.json

Ralf Handl (SAP): c.Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in Applied state

ii.ODATA-841            Representation of Precision and Scale

iii.ODATA-855            Should we define patterns for some of the primitive types

iv.ODATA-856            Add annotations for Min/Max/Pattern

v.ODATA-858            Define meaning of MaxLength for String, Binary, and Stream

vi.ODATA-864            Translate @Core.Description annotations into JSON Schema description keywords

Ralf Handl (SAP): Example 7: split up into seperate examples

Ralf Handl (SAP): Mark: add multiple variants for different combinations of facets

Ralf Handl (SAP): Example 24: incorrect representation of actions and functions

Ralf Handl (SAP): Action and function representation objects MUST have a "parameters" member, which MAY be empty

Ralf Handl (SAP): Change examples to use different names for binding parameters, and avoid the name "in"

Ralf Handl (SAP): Document order of parameters is significant: switch to array representation with objects {name:string, type:{$ref or primitive}}

Ralf Handl (SAP): Use similar representation as Swagger, i.e. "type":"string","format":"decimal" for primitive types

Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike to open an issue for representation of CSDL references as strings (with OData semantics) or JSON References. Research into use of JSON References as true references and not just as "macro expansion". WD01 as affected/fix version

Ralf Handl (SAP): Section 4.2.4: definition doesn't match current representation depicted in example

Ralf Handl (SAP): Annotations without explicit value in XML: don't do that in JSON Schema, just explicitly repeat the default value from the term definition

Ralf Handl (SAP): 8.Next meeting [9:50am PT]

a.Thursday October 29, 2015 during 8-10am PT?

Ralf Handl (SAP): 9.AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]

Ralf Handl (SAP): Use Ralf's Adobe Connect from now on for meetings

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 16:37
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2015-10-22

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday October 22, 2015 during 8-10am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

1.        Roll call [8:00am PT]

a.     Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39121

 

2.        Approve agenda [8:05am PT]

 

3.        Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]

a.     Minutes from October 15, 2015 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56708/odata-meeting-109_on-20151015-minutes.html

 

4.        Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]

a.     Action items due

                                  i.    Propose factoring of CSDL documents (Mike Pizzo)

 

5.        Extension for Data Aggregation [8:20am PT]

a.     Review documents

                                  i.    Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56704/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.docx

                                 ii.    Summary of changes: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56703/odata-data-aggregation%20CSD03%20Summary%20of%20Non-Material%20Changes%202015-10-16.docx

                                iii.    ABNF Changes: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/ABNF/odata-aggregation-abnf.txt?op=diff&rev=729

                                iv.    ABNF Testcases: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/ABNF/odata-aggregation-testcases.xml?op=diff&rev=752

 

b.    Issues for Data Aggregation in Applied state

                                  i.    ODATA-833            Example 40 applies term RecursiveHierarchy term incorrectly

                                 ii.    ODATA-851            groupby(): ABNF still allows more than two parameters

                                iii.    ODATA-857            Example 5: use two aggregate expressions

                                iv.    ODATA-860            Move definition of Custom Aggregation Method to separate subsection.

                                 v.    ODATA-866            3.14 Transformation compute: add reference to numeric promotion rules

                                vi.    ODATA-871            Clarify odata.type for Compute and Aggregate

 

c.     Review zip file

                                  i.    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56706/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.zip

 

d.    Approve CSD03 with non-material changes to CS02

                                  i.    Sample motion: I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve  OData Extension for Data Aggregation Version 4.0 Working Draft 04 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56706/odata-data-aggregation-ext-v4.0-wd04-2015-10-16.zip as a Committee Specification. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56707/odata-data-aggregation%20CSD03%20Summary%20of%20Non-Material%20Changes%202015-10-16-final.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#dNonmaterialChange).

 

6.        JSON Format for CSDL [9:00am PT]

a.     Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in New or Open state

                                  i.    ODATA-872            Consider defining structure of bound actions/functions

 

b.    Review documents

                                  i.    Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56709/odata-json-csdl-v4.0-wd01-2015-10-16.docx

                                 ii.    EDM JSON Schema: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/schemas/edm.json

 

c.     Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in Applied state

                                 ii.    ODATA-841            Representation of Precision and Scale

                                iii.    ODATA-855            Should we define patterns for some of the primitive types

                                iv.    ODATA-856            Add annotations for Min/Max/Pattern

                                 v.    ODATA-858            Define meaning of MaxLength for String, Binary, and Stream

                                vi.    ODATA-864            Translate @Core.Description annotations into JSON Schema description keywords

 

7.        V4.0 ERRATA03 [9:30am PT]

a.     Issues for V4.0_ERRATA03 in New or Open state

                                  i.    OData CSDL

1.     ODATA-825            AnnotationPath and Path _expression_: traversal of multiple collection-valued scalar or navigation properties

2.     ODATA-865            14.2.1 Attribute Target: complete list of externally targetable CSDL elements

 

                                 ii.    OData JSON Format

1.     ODATA-656            Requesting clarity on payload ordering constraints for clients

2.     ODATA-828            Update I-JSON reference

 

                                iii.    OData Protocol

1.     ODATA-800            Media streams section does not reference the AtomPub spec

2.     ODATA-830            Header OData-EntityId: when required

3.     ODATA-837            Example 28: replace $deltaToken with a valid custom query option

4.     ODATA-869            Explicitly state the location of the Content-ID header in a change set

5.    ODATA-870            Round-off description for creating related entities when creating an entity

 

                                iv.    OData URL Conventions

1.     ODATA-784            Need to specify the behaviour of arithmetic operators on Decimal type

2.     ODATA-785            Numeric promotion (on overflow) across "number type families" is undesirable.

 

8.        Next meeting [9:50am PT]

a.     Thursday October 29, 2015 during 8-10am PT?

 

9.        AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]

 

[2] References

·         Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/46401/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

·         Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc

 

[3] Timeline

·         https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=56024&wg_abbrev=odata