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Subject: RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2015-11-05 - chat transcript


Room information was updated by: Stefan
Please register yourselves at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39123
Room information was updated by: Stefan
Please register yourselves at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39123 
 
Dial-in information: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/latest 
 
Online chat room(here): http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc
 
Screen sharing: https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/

 

Stefan: Voting Members: 1 of 13 (7%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

anonymous morphed into Matt Borges (SAP)

 

Stefan: Voting Members: 4 of 13 (30%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Room Information:
Please register yourselves at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39123 
 
Dial-in information: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/latest 
 
Online chat room(here): http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc
 
Screen sharing: https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39123
Ralf Handl (SAP): Voting Members: 7 of 13 (53%) (used for quorum calculation)
Ralf Handl (SAP): Achieved quorum: yes

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I need to step out for a couple minutes be right back

 

Stefan: Voting Members: 9 of 13 (69%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I am back
Mark Biamonte (Progress): I am back
Mark Biamonte (Progress): I am back

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): 6.Next Face-to-Face Meeting [8:20am PT]
Ralf Handl (SAP): 2.Approve agenda [8:05am PT]
Ralf Handl (SAP): Agenda is approved
Ralf Handl (SAP): 3.Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]
Ralf Handl (SAP): a.Minutes from Occtober 29, 2015 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56814/odata-meeting-111_on-20151029-minutes.html
Ralf Handl (SAP): Minutes are approved
Ralf Handl (SAP): 4.Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]
a.Action items due
i.None
Ralf Handl (SAP): 5.Extension for Data Aggregation [8:15am PT]
a.Result of electronic ballot https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/ballot.php?id=2877
Ralf Handl (SAP): Vote passed with 100% Yes - Thanks!
Ralf Handl (SAP): 6.Next Face-to-Face Meeting [8:20am PT]
a.When: First week February 2016, 01-05  does this work?
b.Where: please propose locations
c.What: 
i.Finish CSD01 for JSON CSDL
ii.Get agreement on scope and shape of V4.01
iii.Prepare respective draft documents
Ralf Handl (SAP): Possible time slots
Ralf Handl (SAP): Week February 29 - March
Ralf Handl (SAP): Week February 29 - March 04
Ralf Handl (SAP): Location: Zrich

 

Stefan: Stefan would be in favour for Zurich also ... http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/images/wink.gif

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): I like Zurich

 

Mike Pizzo: That works for me.

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): No objections

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): If I can lobby my company to come this week and location would work for me.

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Action Item for Hubert: check if IBM can host the F2F in Zurich, Vulkanstraße
Ralf Handl (SAP): Due date November 19
Ralf Handl (SAP): 7.JSON Format for CSDL [8:40am PT]
a.Walk through current document revision
i.Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56763/odata-json-csdl-v4.0-wd01-2015-10-23.docx 
ii.EDM JSON Schema: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/schemas/edm.json
Ralf Handl (SAP): b.Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in Applied state
i.ODATA-841             Representation of Precision and Scale
ii.ODATA-855             Should we define patterns for some of the primitive types
iii.ODATA-856             Add annotations for Min/Max/Pattern
iv.ODATA-858             Define meaning of MaxLength for String, Binary, and Stream
v.ODATA-864             Translate @Core.Description annotations into JSON Schema description keywords

 

Stefan: Stefan will have to drop out of screen sharing but hopefully the voice line remains ...

 

Ramesh Reddy(Redhat): Another call, need to drop off, thanks

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike to open a ticket on whether to always use arrays for action/function overloads
Ralf Handl (SAP): Hubert: always use an array, no special case for 1-element arrays
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mark and Ralf second
Ralf Handl (SAP): Ralf to open an issue to pull out entityContainer, actions, functions, and terms to top-level keywords
Ralf Handl (SAP): Resume walk-through in next meeting, we stopped just before 4.2.5 Annotations
Ralf Handl (SAP): b.Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in Applied state
i.ODATA-841             Representation of Precision and Scale
ii.ODATA-855             Should we define patterns for some of the primitive types
iii.ODATA-856             Add annotations for Min/Max/Pattern
iv.ODATA-858             Define meaning of MaxLength for String, Binary, and Stream
v.ODATA-864             Translate @Core.Description annotations into JSON Schema description keywords

 

Hubert Heijkers: I move to resolve ODATA-841, ODATA-855, ODATA-858 and ODATA-864 as applied.

 

Ted Jones (Red Hat): I second

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Motion passes
Ralf Handl (SAP): Ralf to check whether the document still contains plain untranslated @Core.Description
Ralf Handl (SAP): 8.V4.0 ERRATA03 [9:10am PT]
a.Issues for V4.0_ERRATA03 in New or Open state
i.OData JSON Format
1.ODATA-828             Update I-JSON reference

 

Mike Pizzo: Revised Wording:The DateTimeOffset and TimeOfDay data types as defined in [OData-ABNF] allow for the seconds component to be omitted.  For compatibility with [I-JSON], OData clients and servers SHOULD include the seconds component.
Mike Pizzo: I move we resolve ODATA-828 according to this revised proposal.

 

Hubert Heijkers: I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-828 is resolved with the amended proposal
Ralf Handl (SAP): ii.OData Protocol
1.ODATA-877             Must delta responses continue to track "orphaned" entities?

 

Mike Pizzo: Proposed wording for ODATA-877:
Mike Pizzo: If a previously tracked related entity is orphaned because all paths to the entity as specified in the defining query have been broken (i.e., due to relationship changes and/or changes or deletions to parent entities) then the service MUST return the appropriate notifications for the client to determine that the entity has been orphaned (i.e., the changed relationships and removed parent entities) but the client should not assume that it will receive additional notifications for such an orphaned entity.

 

Hubert Heijkers: I move to resolve ODATA-877 as proposed.

 

Matt Borges (SAP): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-877 is resolved as proposed
Ralf Handl (SAP): 9.V4.01 [9:30am PT]
a.Issues for V4.01_WD01 in New or Open state
i.Enum Types
1.Proposal by Ken Baclawski: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56805/DerivationForEnumerations_KenBaclawski.html 
2.ODATA-494             Define inheritance for enumeration types
3.ODATA-849             Add possibility for enumeration types to "extend" another enumeration type
Ralf Handl (SAP): <EnumType Name="ExtendedShippingMethod" Widens="ShippingMethod">
  <Member Name="Economy"/>
</EnumType>

 

Ted Jones (Red Hat): I will be at TechEd next week

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): 10.Next meeting [9:50am PT]
a.Thursday November 12, 2015 during 8-10am PT
Ralf Handl (SAP): 11.AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]
Ralf Handl (SAP): Meeting is adjourned!

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. November 2015 09:13
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2015-11-05

 

Added 9.1.ii Adoption Blocker:

 

1.        ODATA-881 Add support for Edm.Untyped

2.        ODATA-876 Allow services to return contained entities inline for delta responses

3.        ODATA-814 Don't need TargetId in a deleted link for a to 0..1 relationship

4.        ODATA-613 Allow POST to entity sets using the delta-response format

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Montag, 2. November 2015 13:47
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2015-11-05

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday November 05, 2015 during 8-10am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

1.        Roll call [8:00am PT]

a.     Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=39123

 

2.        Approve agenda [8:05am PT]

 

3.        Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]

a.     Minutes from Occtober 29, 2015 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56814/odata-meeting-111_on-20151029-minutes.html

 

4.        Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]

a.     Action items due

                                  i.    None

 

5.        Extension for Data Aggregation [8:15am PT]

a.     Result of electronic ballot https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/ballot.php?id=2877

 

6.        Next Face-to-Face Meeting [8:20am PT]

a.     When: First week February 2016, 01-05 – does this work?

b.    Where: please propose locations

c.     What:

                                  i.    Finish CSD01 for JSON CSDL

                                 ii.    Get agreement on scope and shape of V4.01

                                iii.    Prepare respective draft documents

 

7.        JSON Format for CSDL [8:40am PT]

a.     Walk through current document revision

                                  i.    Specification document: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56763/odata-json-csdl-v4.0-wd01-2015-10-23.docx

                                 ii.    EDM JSON Schema: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/odata/trunk/spec/schemas/edm.json

 

b.    Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in Applied state

                                  i.    ODATA-841             Representation of Precision and Scale

                                 ii.    ODATA-855             Should we define patterns for some of the primitive types

                                iii.    ODATA-856             Add annotations for Min/Max/Pattern

                                iv.    ODATA-858             Define meaning of MaxLength for String, Binary, and Stream

                                 v.    ODATA-864             Translate @Core.Description annotations into JSON Schema description keywords

 

c.     Issues for JSON Format for CSDL in New or Open state

                                  i.    ODATA-863             ODATA-618 Represent Terms similar to Types

 

8.        V4.0 ERRATA03 [9:10am PT]

a.     Issues for V4.0_ERRATA03 in New or Open state

                                  i.    OData JSON Format

1.     ODATA-828             Update I-JSON reference

 

                                 ii.    OData Protocol

1.     ODATA-877             Must delta responses continue to track "orphaned" entities?

2.     ODATA-837             Example 28: replace $deltaToken with a valid custom query option

 

9.        V4.01 [9:30am PT]

a.     Issues for V4.01_WD01 in New or Open state

                                  i.    Enum Types

1.     Proposal by Ken Baclawski: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/56805/DerivationForEnumerations_KenBaclawski.html

2.     ODATA-494             Define inheritance for enumeration types

3.     ODATA-849             Add possibility for enumeration types to "extend" another enumeration type

 

                                 ii.    Adoption Blocker

1.     ODATA-881             Add support for Edm.Untyped

2.     ODATA-876             Allow services to return contained entities inline for delta responses

3.     ODATA-814             Don't need TargetId in a deleted link for a to 0..1 relationship

4.     ODATA-613             Allow POST to entity sets using the delta-response format

 

                                iii.    Simplified Syntax

1.     ODATA-664             Consider supporting parameterless function imports with no parens

2.     ODATA-812             Allow omitting namespaces for unambiguous functions/actions

3.     ODATA-763             Allowing implicit aliasing of parameters (public comment c201412e00001)

4.     ODATA-799             Define Key-As-Segment URL convention for resource paths

5.     ODATA-834             Make type prefix optional for enumeration literals in URLs

 

                                iv.    Set Operations

1.     ODATA-666             Define Deep Update and Deep Upsert operations

2.     ODATA-836             Allow applying actions to a filtered collection of entities

3.     ODATA-613             Allow POST to entity sets using the delta-response format

4.     ODATA-615             Allow PATCH and DELETE with $filter on collections to modify or delete all (and only) the matching entities

5.     ODATA-616             Allow POST to collections of complex and primitive types, and DELETE with $filter

 

                                 v.    New Query Capabilities

1.     ODATA-482             Allow inlining stream properties and media resources

2.     ODATA-614             Allow $expand, $select, ... with POST/PATCH/PUT in combination with return=representation to specify the response shape

3.     ODATA-827             introduce $compute query option

4.     ODATA-556             Add "in" operator as syntactic sugar for a chain of "or" expressions

5.     ODATA-820             Allow indexing into collections

 

                                vi.    Simplified Payload

1.     ODATA-561             odata.type shouldn't require "#" for primitive types

2.     ODATA-630             Consider making odata the default namespace for annotations

3.     ODATA-813             Allow no metadata for non-OData clients

4.     ODATA-814             Don't need TargetId in a deleted link for a to 0..1 relationship

5.     ODATA-818             Omit properties whose value is null or the $metadata-defined default value

6.     ODATA-809             Define non-message format for final response of async request

 

 

10.      Next meeting [9:50am PT]

a.     Thursday November 12, 2015 during 8-10am PT?

 

11.      AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]

 

[2] References

·         Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

·         Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc

 

[3] Timeline

·         https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=56024&wg_abbrev=odata

 

 

 



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