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Subject: RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting 2016-03-31


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[8:00] Ram (Microsoft): a.Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41456

 

[8:02] Stefan: Voting Members: 5 of 13 (38%) (used for quorum calculation)
[8:03] Stefan: Agenda email: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/email/archives/201603/msg00246.html
[8:04] Stefan: Voting Members: 7 of 13 (53%) (used for quorum calculation)
[8:04] Stefan: We are quorate.
[8:10] Stefan: Info: Voting Members: 8 of 13 (61%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[8:10] anonymous morphed into Matt Borges (SAP)

 

[8:14] Ram (Microsoft): Previous OASIS press release on OData: https://www.oasis-open.org/news/pr/oasis-approves-odata-4-0-standards-for-an-open-programmable-web

 

[8:18] Hubert Heijkers: Hi, sorry for being late!

 

[8:44] Ram (Microsoft): Agenda approved with correction.
[8:44] Ram (Microsoft): Minutes approved no objections

 

[8:44] Stefan: Info for scribe: Voting Members: 10 of 13 (76%) (used for quorum calculation)  ... scribe is on vacation, so please use chat, if something shall enter the minutes http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/images/wink.gif

 

[8:49] Ram (Microsoft): Timeline discussion:
[8:49] Ram (Microsoft): OData v4 Errata 3 public review expected to start next week.
[8:52] Ram (Microsoft): Next week we will discuss about OData JSON CSDL spec next steps. We are aiming for CSD02 of the spec by April or May.
[8:53] Ram (Microsoft): We expect to make progress on Temporal spec once we let the dust settle on some of the more pressing activities.
[8:54] Ram (Microsoft): OASIS Open Repos discussion:
[8:54] Ram (Microsoft): TC members to confirm if Apache 2 would work for them. We will discuss and make a decision at the next meeting.

 

[8:55] Ralf Handl (SAP): Open Repos: make them with specific purpose
[8:55] Ralf Handl (SAP): - OData Vocabularies
[8:55] Ralf Handl (SAP): OData OpenAPI (tools)
[8:55] Ralf Handl (SAP): other repos for future topics
[8:58] Ralf Handl (SAP): https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tc-admin-requests/open-repository-request
[8:58] Ralf Handl (SAP): https://www.oasis-open.org/resources/open-repositories/

 

[9:02] Ram (Microsoft): We will have a package for review and approval before next TC meeting.
[9:02] Ram (Microsoft): Issues discussion:
[9:02] Ram (Microsoft): ODATA-480 $batch: remove restriction "within the same change set " for Content-ID referencing
[9:04] Ram (Microsoft): Issue open, no objections

 

[9:05] Ralf Handl (SAP): Remove restriction "within the same change set " for Content-ID referencing and allow referencing requests within the same batch that appear before the reference and thus already have been processed. 
 
Add term BatchContentIdReferencingAcrossChangeSetsSupported to Capabilities vocabulary, similar to the existing term BatchContentIdReferencingInRequestBodiesSupported.
[9:11] Ralf Handl (SAP): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-541
[9:16] Ralf Handl (SAP): I move to resolve ODATA_480 as proposed

 

[9:16] Mike Pizzo: I second

 

[9:17] Ram (Microsoft): No objections, motion passes.
[9:18] Ram (Microsoft): ODATA-921 Specify operations for keyless nav props
[9:22] Ram (Microsoft): Issue open, no objections

 

[9:31] Mike Pizzo: if you have a navigation property with no navigation property binding, the canonical URL may not uniquely identify a members
[9:37] Mike Pizzo: Revised proposal for clarification:
[9:37] Mike Pizzo: Clarify:
-Can't have containment nav props of abstract types w/o keys (including Edm.EntityType)
-add note to url conventions: if you have a navigation property with no navigation property binding, the canonical URL (formed by appending the key of the contained member to the navigation property path) may not uniquely identify a members
[9:39] Mike Pizzo: slight modification:
[9:39] Mike Pizzo: Clarify:
-Can't have containment nav props of abstract types w/o keys (including Edm.EntityType)
-add note to url conventions: if you have a navigation property with no navigation property binding, the canonical URL (formed by appending the key of the child member to the navigation property path) may not uniquely identify a members.
[9:51] Mike Pizzo: I move we resolve ODATA-921 as proposed.

 

[9:52] Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

[9:52] Ram (Microsoft): No objections, motion passes.
[9:55] Ram (Microsoft): ODATA-926: OData should not require 202 response to be empty
[9:55] Ram (Microsoft): Issue open, no objections

 

[9:55] Hubert Heijkers: I move to resolve ODATA-926 as proposed;-!

 

[9:56] Ralf Handl (SAP): I second

 

[9:56] Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

[9:57] Ram (Microsoft): Issue open, no objections
[9:58] Ram (Microsoft): No objections, motion passes.
[10:00] Ram (Microsoft): Action discussion: Both open actions still open
[10:00] Ram (Microsoft): Next meeting, next week
[10:00] Ram (Microsoft): Meeting adjourned.

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ram Jeyaraman
Sent: March 31, 2016 7:52 AM
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting 2016-03-31

 

One additional item on timeline added inline below – see section 6.

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ram Jeyaraman
Sent: March 30, 2016 5:15 PM
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting 2016-03-31

 

Here [1] is the agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday March 31, 2016 during 8-10am Pacific Time. For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

  1. Roll call [8:00am]
    1. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41456 

 

  1. Approve agenda [8:05am]

 

  1. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am]
    1. Minutes from March 24, 2016 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/57830/odata-meeting-125_on-20160324-minutes.html

 

  1. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am]
    1. Action items due

                                                    i.     #0032: Overview presentation on HTTP/2 features (due May 19, 2016)

                                                   ii.     #0035: Identify the right open source license for the OASIS Open Source repositories for vocabularies and libraries (due March 31, 2016)

 

  1. OData v4 international standards [8:20am]
    1. Let’s discuss current status and next steps

 

  1. Timeline review (deliverables leading up to end of June)

a.      March 2016

                                                    i.     Publish OData v4 International Standards

                                                   ii.     OData v4 Errata 03 (Committee Specification Draft 01)

                                                  iii.     OData v4.01 (Working Draft 01) [address key issues]

                                                  iv.     OData Extensions for Temporal Data (Working Draft 01)

b.      April 2016

                                                    i.     OData JSON Schema for CSDL (Committee Specification Draft 02)

c.      May 2016

                                                    i.     OData v4.01 (Working Draft 02) [address all remaining issues]

                                                   ii.     OData Extensions for Temporal Data (Working Draft 02)

d.      June 2016: Advance OData specs

                                                    i.     OData v4 Errata 03 (Approved Errata)

                                                   ii.     OData v4.01 (Committee Specification Draft 01 and start public review)

                                                  iii.     OData Extensions for Data Aggregation (Committee Specification 02) [identify implementations]

                                                  iv.     OData Extensions for Temporal Data (Committee Specification Draft 01 and start public review)

                                                   v.     OData JSON Schema for CSDL (Committee Specification 01)

 

  1. V4.01 issues [8:30am]

a.      Issues for V4.01_WD01 in New or Open state

                                                    i.          OData protocol

1.      ODATA-480 $batch: remove restriction "within the same change set " for Content-ID referencing

2.      ODATA-921 Specify operations for keyless nav props

3.      ODATA-920 Specify overflow for int data types

4.      ODATA-919 Specify the result type for each operation based on operator types

5.      ODATA-918 Add operator "divideby" that always results in a decimal.

6.      ODATA-921: Specify operations for keyless nav props

7.      ODATA-926: OData should not require 202 response to be empty

                                                   ii.           Simplified Payload

1.      ODATA-818   Omit properties whose value is null or the $metadata-defined default value

2.      ODATA-809   Define non-message format for final response of async request

3.      ODATA-747Allow IEEE 754 constants [-]INF and NaN also for Edm.Decimal and integer types

                                                  iii.           New Query Capabilities

1.      ODATA-614 Allow $expand, $select, ... with POST/PATCH/PUT in combination with return=representation to specify the response shape

2.      ODATA-827 introduce $compute query option

                                                  iv.           Enumerations

1.      ODATA-849 Add possibility for enumeration types to "extend" another enumeration type

2.      ODATA-494 Define inheritance for enumeration types

3.      ODATA-874 Allow Edm.String as underlying type for enumeration types

                                                   v.          OData CSDL

1.      ODATA-923: $expand for $metadata to include referenced schemas

8.      OData JSON CSDL [9:20am]

b.      New issues

                                                    i.     ODATA-925: Define Core term for service/schema/model version

c.      Parked issues

                                                    i.     ODATA-910: Consider format that is tailored for programmatic access (public comment c201602e00002)

                                                   ii.     ODATA-906 Consider how to specify an included namespace as a default in JSON CSDL

                                                  iii.     ODATA-890 Specify how to get from a JSON message to a JSON schema for validating this message

                                                  iv.     ODATA-863 Represent Terms similar to Types

d.      Next steps

                                                    i.     Discuss next steps for alignment with Swagger JSON schema

  1. Data aggregation [9:30am]

a.      Hierarchy discussion

b.      Issues

                                               i.          ODATA-905 Example 67: result row for USA, Sugar missing, Example 68: last total should be 7

                                              ii.          ODATA-904 Example 55: clarify groupby in combination with relationships of instance cardinality zero

                                             iii.          ODATA-909 ABNF for pathPrefix should also allow qualified ComplexTypeName

  1. OData extension for Temporal Data [9:40am]

 

  1. Next meeting [9:50am]

b.      Thursday April 14, 2016?

 

  1. AOB and wrap up [9:55am]

 

[2] References

 

[3] Timeline

 



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