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Subject: RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2016-09-08 - chat transcript


Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
Register: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41479  (please do so as usual, thanks).
Agenda draft: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/email/archives/201609/msg0000n.html
Minutes draft of previous meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/58746/odata-meeting-142_on-20160818-minutes.html

 

Stefan Hagen: Info4Scribe{Voting Members: 1 of 12 (8%) (used for quorum calculation)}

 

anonymous morphed into Ted Jones (Red Hat)
anonymous morphed into Ramesh Reddy (Red Hat)

 

Stefan Hagen: Voting Members: 5 of 12 (41%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): 1.Roll call [8:00am PT]
a.Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41479
Ralf Handl (SAP): Voting Members: 7 of 12 (58%) (used for quorum calculation)
Ralf Handl (SAP): Quorum achieved: yes
Ralf Handl (SAP): 2.Approve agenda [8:05am PT]

 

anonymous morphed into Matt Borges (SAP)

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): New agenda item: V4.01 documents prepared by Mike Pizzo
Ralf Handl (SAP): Agenda approved with above addition
Ralf Handl (SAP): 3.Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]
a.Minutes from August 18, 2016 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/58746/odata-meeting-142_on-20160818-minutes.html
Ralf Handl (SAP): Minutes are approved
Ralf Handl (SAP): 4.Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]
a.Action items due
i.0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mark volunteers to take over Action Item 0036 - Robin Cover from OASIS can help with the process
Ralf Handl (SAP): Email address: Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>
Ralf Handl (SAP): 4.5 V4.01 documents prepared by Mike
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike uploaded documents with 60+ issues applied
Ralf Handl (SAP): Homework: review the new documents
Ralf Handl (SAP): Next meeting (4 hours): walk through the documents
Ralf Handl (SAP): Please pay special attention to the compliance sections
Ralf Handl (SAP): Goal: have public review soon, resolve remaining issues during the public review period
Ralf Handl (SAP): Additional issues coming up when applying the resolutions are documented in the Jira issues, please refer to them, and also comment there
Ralf Handl (SAP): 5.V4.01 [9:20am PT]
a.Issues for V4.01_WD01 in New or Open state
i.New Query Capabilities
1.ODATA-827 introduce $compute query option
Ralf Handl (SAP): Add "$compute" query option allowing additional computed properties to be added to each instance. The syntax is similar to the compute() transformation in Data Aggregation, i.e. $compute=<list of compute expressions>, but without the restriction to simple values: allowed compute expressions are any expressions valid in a $filter system query option on the input set. 
 
More formally: 
  compute = '$compute' EQ computeItem *( COMMA computeItem ) 
  computeItem = commonExpr RWS 'as' RWS computedProperty 
  computedProperty = odataIdentifier 
 
$compute is also allowed as query option nested within $expand to add computed dynamic properties to expanded entities. 
 
$compute is logically evaluated first, so the computed dynamic properties can be used in $expand, $filter, $orderby, and $select. 
 
Computed structural properties SHOULD be added to the default selection (in absence of $select), and are treated as other dynamic properties: 
- $select=* includes computed structural properties 
- $expand=* includes computed navigation properties or computed entities/collections of entities 
- appear in context URL same way as other (dynamic) properties 
 
GET ~Customers?$expand=Orders($compute=price*qty as totalprice;$select=name,price,qty,totalprice)
Ralf Handl (SAP): Addition to proposal: when nested in $expand, the computed property name must only be unique within the type(s) of the expanded properties
Ralf Handl (SAP): Computed properties in expanded entities can be addressed with path notation just as declared properties

 

Mike Pizzo: Note: in this example, totalprice is available outside of the expand as Orders/totalprice, as in:
GET ~Customers?$filter=Orders/totalprice gt 100&$expand=Orders($compute=price*qty as totalprice;$select=name,price,qty,totalprice)
Mike Pizzo: I move we approve ODATA-827 as proposed

 

Ramesh Reddy (Red Hat): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-827 is resolved as proposed
Ralf Handl (SAP): 2.ODATA-933 Allow using instance annotations in $filter
Ralf Handl (SAP): Clarification: use same rules as for dynamic properties if instance annotation is not defined for an entity
Ralf Handl (SAP): Services MAY support this, not a MUST
Ralf Handl (SAP): Example: numeric exception values
Ralf Handl (SAP): GET Something?$filter=Age@numericValueException eq 'NaN'
Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-933 is OPEN
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mark: have Capability annotation "CanFilterOnInstanceAnnotations"
Ralf Handl (SAP): Consider this also for $select, would be more explicit than in an odata.include-annotations preference.

 

Mike Pizzo: Mike: Perhaps wait until we have some usage scenarios before trying to figure out meaningful capabilities.

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike: open separate issue for instance annotations in $select and $expand, limit this issue to $filter - Mike to create the new issue
Ralf Handl (SAP): I move to resolve ODATA-933 with the amended proposal: limited to $filter, purely optional feature that services MAY support

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-933 is resolved with the amended proposal
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike has created https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-975 to keep track of instance annotations in $select and $expand
Ralf Handl (SAP): 3.ODATA-953 Consider deprecating structural casting
Ralf Handl (SAP): Structural casting is a MAY, so as long as we do not explicitly forbid structural casting we can remove it

 

Mike Pizzo: Current Proposal: Clarify that structural casting MUST NOT be applied anywhere other than the explicit cast operator; i.e., it MUST NOT be applied when using cast segments nor evaluating isof.

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-953 is OPEN

 

Mike Pizzo: Since currently optional, revised proposal could be: Remove current language around structural casting.
Mike Pizzo: I propose we resolve ODATA-953 by removing the current language around structural casting.
Mike Pizzo: I move we resolve ODATA-953 by removing the current language around structural casting.

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-953 is resolved as proposed
Ralf Handl (SAP): 4.ODATA-954 Key-As-Segment for multi-part keys
Ralf Handl (SAP): Generalize the rules in ODATA-799 to allow key-as-segment notation also for multi-part keys. 
 
Example: an accounting document is identified by the company code, the year, and the (auto-incremented) document number: 
 
      <EntityType Name="AccountingDocument"> 
        <Key> 
          <PropertyRef Name="CompanyCode" /> 
          <PropertyRef Name="Year" /> 
          <PropertyRef Name="DocumentNumber" /> 
        </Key> 
      </EntityType> 
 
Taking into account the order of <PropertyRef> elements within the <Key> element a single accounting document can be identified as 
 
    GET AccountingDocuments/SAP/2016/4329043280 
 
An optional extension would be to treat the multi-part key as a "folder structure", i.e. 
 
    AccountingDocuments/SAP/2016 
 
would identify the subset of accounting documents for a company and year, and 
 
    AccountingDocuments/SAP 
 
would identify the subset of accounting documents for a company. 
 
Services could optionally support this as a shorthand for 
 
   GET AccountingDocuments?$filter=CompanyCode eq 'SAP' and Year eq '2016' 
 
and 
 
   GET AccountingDocuments?$filter=CompanyCode eq 'SAP'

 

Mike Pizzo: Could separate into two parts: first, support for multi-part key-as-segment and second as partial keys for both parens and key-as-segment

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike has created ODATA-976 Support partial keys
Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-954 only for fully specified multi-part keys
Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-954 is OPEN
Ralf Handl (SAP): Generalize the rules in ODATA-799 to allow key-as-segment notation also for multi-part keys. 
 
Example: an accounting document is identified by the company code, the year, and the (auto-incremented) document number: 
 
      <EntityType Name="AccountingDocument"> 
        <Key> 
          <PropertyRef Name="CompanyCode" /> 
          <PropertyRef Name="Year" /> 
          <PropertyRef Name="DocumentNumber" /> 
        </Key> 
      </EntityType> 
 
Taking into account the order of <PropertyRef> elements within the <Key> element a single accounting document can be identified as 
 
    GET AccountingDocuments/SAP/2016/4329043280
Ralf Handl (SAP): Discussion on ambiguity: same rules apply as defined in ODATA-799

 

Mike Pizzo: For ODATA-954, if one segment is resolved as a partial key value then the subsequent segments should be resolved as any remaining key values.
Mike Pizzo: I move we resolve ODATA-954 as proposed.

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-954 is resolved with the amended proposal
Ralf Handl (SAP): Side note: introduce filter segment 
GET Something/$filter(@f)/some.function()?@f=...
Ralf Handl (SAP): 5.ODATA-963 Make query options case insensitivite

 

Stefan Hagen1: ora shortcut for  letter insensitive

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): $Filter=Something EQ 42 OR SubstringOf(...)

 

Mike Pizzo: Updated title: Make query options, built-in functions, and built-in operators case insensitive
Mike Pizzo: Updated proposal: 4.01 services must support case insensitive system query options. built-in functions, and built-in operators 
Interoperable 4.01 clients must continue to use the 4.0 defined casing.

 

Stefan Hagen1: I move to resolve ODATA-963 as resolved

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-963 is openb

 

Stefan Hagen1: I move to resolve ODATA-963 as proposed

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-963 is resolved as proposed
Ralf Handl (SAP): ii.Set Operations
1.ODATA-836 Allow applying actions to a filtered collection of entities
Ralf Handl (SAP): Either add a path segment that takes a boolean _expression_, optionally deferred to a parameter alias, or allow POST in combination with $apply 
 
POST Products/$filter(Age gt 3)/Special.Discount 
POST Products/$filter(@f)/Special.Discount?@f=Age gt 3 
 
POST Products?$apply=filter(Age gt 3)/Special.Discount 
 
Consider adding path equivalents of other query options: 
 
POST /Orders/$filter(@f)/$top(5)/Ship?@f=Details/ShippingDate lt now()

 

Mark Biamonte (Progress): oops...I went to take myself of mute and hung up instead.  I don't have a use case right now.
Mark Biamonte (Progress): will rejoin the call in a minute

 

Mike Pizzo: The use of $apply from aggregation extension seems consistent and cleaner than trying to put something in the path.  As we have no urgent need, I would propose we postpone this to a future release as a proposal for how to address this if the need arises.
Mike Pizzo: I move we defer ODATA-836 until such a time as we have use cases requiring support for actions/functions on filtered sets, and then consider in favor of using $apply.

 

Stefan Hagen1: I second that

 

Stefan Hagen1 morphed into Stefan Hagen

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): ODATA-836 is deferred
Ralf Handl (SAP): I've created https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-977 for the $apply case
Ralf Handl (SAP): iii.OData Protocol
1.ODATA-854 Consider use of OPTIONS for discovering formats, other capabilities and features
Ralf Handl (SAP): Postpone until we have a proposal on the response format

 

Room Information:
Register: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41479  (please do so as usual, thanks).
Agenda draft: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/email/archives/201609/msg0000n.html
Minutes draft of previous meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/58746/odata-meeting-142_on-20160818-minutes.html

 

Ralf Handl (SAP): Ramesh, we can't hear you at the moment
Ralf Handl (SAP): 2.ODATA-900 Cross-service naviation and service versioning
Ralf Handl (SAP): Assume Orders and Customers are in different services and have cross-service navigation properties to each other:
  GET Customers('ALFKI')/Orders
  GET Orders(4711)/Customer
 
Now a new version v2 of the Customer service is published. 
 
Ideally the Order service now automatically navigates to the new (latest) Customer service without requiring a new version of the Order service, and in addition allows navigation to the old version:
  GET Orders(4711)/Customer -> navigates to Customer v2
  GET Orders(4711)/Customer;v1 -> navigates to Customer v1
Ralf Handl (SAP): Postponed to V4.02
Ralf Handl (SAP): 6.Next meeting [9:50am PT]
a.Thursday September 15, 2016 during 8-10 am PT?
Ralf Handl (SAP): b.Thursday September 15, 2016 during 6-10 am PT?
Ralf Handl (SAP): Mike favors 6 am
Ralf Handl (SAP): Stefan also favors longer meetings
Ralf Handl (SAP): It is b) Thursday September 15, 2016 during 6-10 am PT
Ralf Handl (SAP): 1.AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]
Ralf Handl (SAP): Meeting is adjourned

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Montag, 5. September 2016 15:39
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2016-09-08

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday September 08, 2016 during 8-10am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

1.           Roll call [8:00am PT]

a.      Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=41479

 

2.           Approve agenda [8:05am PT]

 

3.           Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10am PT]

a.      Minutes from August 18, 2016 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/58746/odata-meeting-142_on-20160818-minutes.html

 

4.           Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]

a.      Action items due

                                             i.     0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA

 

5.           V4.01 [9:20am PT]

a.      Issues for V4.01_WD01 in New or Open state

                                             i.      New Query Capabilities

1.      ODATA-827 introduce $compute query option

2.      ODATA-933 Allow using instance annotations in $filter

3.      ODATA-953 Consider deprecating structural casting

4.      ODATA-954 Key-As-Segment for multi-part keys

5.      ODATA-963 Make query options case insensitivite

                                            ii.      Set Operations

1.      ODATA-836 Allow applying actions to a filtered collection of entities

                                          iii.      OData Protocol

1.      ODATA-854 Consider use of OPTIONS for discovering formats, other capabilities and features

2.      ODATA-900 Cross-service naviation and service versioning

3.      ODATA-965 UpdateGeoJSON Reference to RFC7946

4.      ODATA-970 11.5.2: also mention advertising operations on collections

                                          iv.      Enumerations

1.      ODATA-494 Define inheritance for enumeration types

2.      ODATA-849 Add possibility for enumeration types to "extend" another enumeration type

3.      ODATA-874 Allow Edm.String as underlying type for enumeration types

                                           v.      Annotations

1.      ODATA-811 Define propagation and (partial) overriding of annotations

2.      ODATA-817 Add client-side function odata.matchesRegularExpression

                                          vi.      OData CSDL

1.      ODATA-618 Allow using term names in positions that allow type names

2.      ODATA-674 Specify navigation property binding combined with containment

3.      ODATA-879 Support Arrays of Arrays

4.      ODATA-929 Nullable facet should default to false for collection types, rather than being unspecified

5.      ODATA-935 Allow singletons to be members of an entity set

6.      ODATA-959 Allow path in an edm:key to also use a primitive property of a non null-able navigation property (recursively) of the entity type.

7.      ODATA-966 13.4 Add example for navigation property bindings for containment navigation property

8.      ODATA-973 Should we relax prohibiting Collection(Edm.ComplexType) and Collection(Edm.Untyped)

                                         vii.      OData JSON Format

1.      ODATA-557 Allow exponential notation for Edm.Decimal

2.      ODATA-868 Describe HTTP encoding for streamed requests and responses

3.      ODATA-969 Chapter 15, Example 32: syntax of "target" URL

                                       viii.      Interfaces

1.      ODATA-619 Attach action and function signatures to terms, i.e. make a term definition an interface definition

                                          ix.      Waiting for refined proposal

1.      ODATA-735 Enhance the CSDL for instance annotations

2.      ODATA-760 Add to depth restrictions to Capabilities Vocabulary

3.      ODATA-884 Add term ErrorCodes to describe possible codes in error messages (public comment c201510e00019)

4.      ODATA-919 Specify the result type for each operation based on operator types

5.      ODATA-923 $expand (or $include) for $metadata to include referenced schemas

6.      ODATA-950 Clarify what requests can be delta enabled

7.      ODATA-964 Need to clarify nested delta representation

 

6.           Next meeting [9:50am PT]

a.      Thursday September 15, 2016 during 8-10 am PT?

 

7.           AOB and wrap up [9:55am PT]

 

[2] References

·        Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

·        Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc

 

[3] Timeline

·        https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=56024&wg_abbrev=odata

 

 

 



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