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Subject: RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2017-04-13 - chat transcript


[16:43] Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
OASIS Open Data Protocol (OData) TC OData TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #170
- Thursday, 13 April 2017, 08:00am to 10:00am PDT
  - i.e. 2017-04-13 17:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
  - other timezone? Try eg.:
  - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017&month=4&day=13&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=69&p3=179
 
Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43972
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43972&confirmed=1 
 
Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = "">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/odata/201704/msg00041.html
 
Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
 
Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "">https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Timeline:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx
 
Agenda Draft (for meeting #170):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from April 06, 2017 TC meeting #169: |
    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
- Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php]
  - Action items due
    - None
- V4.01
  - Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
    - ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
    - ODATA-1037 Add tagging term Core.Deprecated to mark deprecated model elements
  - Document walkthrough
    - Part 1: Protocol |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx
    - Part 2: URL Conventions |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx
    - JSON Format |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx
    - CSDL JSON Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx
    - CSDL XML Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx
    - New in OData 4.01 |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx
- Next meetings
  - Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST  already confirmed
  - Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST ?
- AOB and wrap up
 
UsefulPlaces:
- Chat:
  - http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc   # ... this place 
- ScreenShare and Voice:
  - https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Next Planned meetings (tentative):
- Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-20 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43974
- Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-27 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43975
[16:44] Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
OASIS Open Data Protocol (OData) TC OData TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #170
- Thursday, 13 April 2017, 08:00am to 10:00am PDT
  - i.e. 2017-04-13 17:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
  - other timezone? Try eg.:
  - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017&month=4&day=13&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=69&p3=179
 
Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43973
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43973&confirmed=1 
 
Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = "">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/odata/201704/msg00041.html
 
Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
 
Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "">https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Timeline:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx
 
Agenda Draft (for meeting #170):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from April 06, 2017 TC meeting #169: |
    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
- Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php]
  - Action items due
    - None
- V4.01
  - Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
    - ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
    - ODATA-1037 Add tagging term Core.Deprecated to mark deprecated model elements
  - Document walkthrough
    - Part 1: Protocol |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx
    - Part 2: URL Conventions |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx
    - JSON Format |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx
    - CSDL JSON Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx
    - CSDL XML Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx
    - New in OData 4.01 |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx
- Next meetings
  - Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST  already confirmed
  - Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST ?
- AOB and wrap up
 
UsefulPlaces:
- Chat:
  - http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc   # ... this place 
- ScreenShare and Voice:
  - https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Next Planned meetings (tentative):
- Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-20 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43974
- Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-27 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43975

 

[16:45] Stefan Hagen: RegInfo{Voting Members: 1 of 11 (9%) (used for quorum calculation)}
[16:45] Stefan Hagen: @All: Please note: the correct event page URL is the one for event id 43973
[16:45] Stefan Hagen: Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43973
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43973&confirmed=1
[16:55] Stefan Hagen: RegInfo{Voting Members: 1 of 11 (9%) (used for quorum calculation)}

 

Room Information:
OASIS Open Data Protocol (OData) TC OData TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #170
- Thursday, 13 April 2017, 08:00am to 10:00am PDT
  - i.e. 2017-04-13 17:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
  - other timezone? Try eg.:
  - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017&month=4&day=13&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=69&p3=179
 
Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43973
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43973&confirmed=1 
 
Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = "">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/odata/201704/msg00041.html
 
Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
 
Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "">https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Timeline:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx
 
Agenda Draft (for meeting #170):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from April 06, 2017 TC meeting #169: |
    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
- Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php]
  - Action items due
    - None
- V4.01
  - Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
    - ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
    - ODATA-1037 Add tagging term Core.Deprecated to mark deprecated model elements
  - Document walkthrough
    - Part 1: Protocol |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx
    - Part 2: URL Conventions |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx
    - JSON Format |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx
    - CSDL JSON Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx
    - CSDL XML Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx
    - New in OData 4.01 |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx
- Next meetings
  - Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST  already confirmed
  - Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT  17:00-19:00 CEST ?
- AOB and wrap up
 
UsefulPlaces:
- Chat:
  - http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc   # ... this place 
- ScreenShare and Voice:
  - https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Next Planned meetings (tentative):
- Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-20 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43974
- Thursday April 27, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-04-27 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43975
[17:00] anonymous1 morphed into Matt Borges (SAP)
[17:00] anonymous morphed into Ramesh Reddy (Redhat)

 

[17:01] Stefan Hagen: RegInfo{Voting Members: 4 of 11 (36%) (used for quorum calculation)}

 

[17:02] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Voting Members: 5 of 11 (45%) (used for quorum calculation)
[17:02] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Once Mark registers we are quored
[17:03] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Voting Members: 6 of 11 (54%) (used for quorum calculation)
[17:03] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Achieved quorum: yes
[17:03] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Thanks to Mark!
[17:04] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Let's wait for Hubert and Stefan to join the call
[17:05] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 2.Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]
[17:06] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Agenda is approved
[17:06] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 3.Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]
a.Minutes from April 06, 2017 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html
[17:06] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Minutes are approved
[17:06] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 4.Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]
a.Action items due
i.None
[17:06] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 5.V4.01 [8:20 am PT]
a.Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
[17:07] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): ii.ODATA-1037 Add tagging term Core.Deprecated to mark deprecated model elements
[17:08] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): <Term Name="Deprecated" Type="Core.Tag" DefaultValue="true"> 
        <Annotation Term="Core.Description" String="Model elements annotated with this term are deprecated and should no longer be used. They may be removed in a future version of the service." /> 
      </Term>
[17:09] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Proposal: remove as it is covered by ODATA-1058
[17:11] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): New term provides more information, but is a bit more verbose:
      <Term Name="Masked" Type="Core.Tag" DefaultValue="true" AppliesTo="Property">
        <Annotation Term="Core.Revisions">
          <Collection>
            <Record>
              <PropertyValue Property="Kind" EnumMember="Core.RevisionKind/Deprecated" />
              <PropertyValue Property="Description" String="Use term Common.Masking instead" />
            </Record>
          </Collection>
        </Annotation>

 

[17:15] George Ericson (Dell): Motion to mark issue 1037 as a duplicate of issue 1058.

 

[17:16] Mark Biamonte (Progress): I second

 

[17:16] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): ODATA-1037 is closed as a duplicate of 1058
[17:31] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Section 11.2.10 Requesting the Number of Items in a Collection
[17:31] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Products/$count?$filter=Price lt 10.00

 

[17:32] anonymous morphed into George Ericson (Dell)1

 

[17:34] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Products/$filter=@f/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00
[17:38] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Products/$filter=@f/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00&$filter=Size eq 'XXL'
[17:39] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Do we want to allow a /$filter segment before /$count and in addition a $filter query option?
[17:40] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Hubert: deprecate or at least discourage $filter query option after /$count segment
[17:40] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Matt: don't allow both
[17:41] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Matt: specifying two $filter query options is already forbidden
[17:43] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Hubert: treat /$filter= as applying a function

 

[17:45] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): Products/$filter=@f/MagicHappensHere()/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00&$filter=Size eq 'XXL'
[17:47] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): Products/$filter=@f/MagicHappensHere()/$filter=@g/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00&@g=Size eq 'XXL'

 

[17:56] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Hubert: if we treat /$count as a function that returns raw text then combining it with $filter query option would not be allowed

 

[17:59] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): Products/MyfilterFunc(Price lt 10.00)/MagicHappensHere()/MyFilterFunc(Size eq 'XXL')/$count
[17:59] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): Products/MyfilterFunc(@f)/MagicHappensHere()/MyFilterFunc(@g)/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00&@g=Size eq 'XXL'

 

[18:01] Matt Borges (SAP): GET Products/$filter=@f?@f=Price lt 10
[18:02] Matt Borges (SAP): GET Products/$filter=@f?@f=Price lt 10&$filter=Price gt 20
[18:03] Matt Borges (SAP): GET Products?$filter=Price lt 10&$filter=Price gt 20

 

[18:03] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): GET Products?$apply=filter(Price lt 10)/filter(Price gt 20)

 

[18:07] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): GET Products/$filter=@f/$filter@g?@f=Price lt 10.00&@g=Size eq 'XXL'
[18:12] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): GET Products/$filter=@f/$filter@g/$count?@f=Price lt 10.00&@g=Size eq 'XXL'

 

[18:19] George Ericson (Dell)1: With 4.01, the $filter query option MAY NOT be used in conjunction with a both a $count path segment and a $filter path segment.

 

[18:25] Matt Borges (SAP): GET Products/$filter=@f?@f=Price lt 10&$filter=Price gt 20
[18:25] Matt Borges (SAP): GET Products/$filter=@f/$filter=@g?@f=Price lt 10&@g=Price gt 20

 

[18:57] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Walkthrough stopped before 11.4.12 Set-Based Updates
[18:57] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 6.Next meeting [9:50 am PT]
a.Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT
[18:57] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Hubert and Mark can't make it next week
[18:58] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): 7.AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]
[18:58] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Meeting is adjourned

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. April 2017 11:46
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2017-04-13

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday April 13, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

1.        Roll call [8:00 am PT]

a.     Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43973  

 

2.        Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]

 

3.        Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]

a.     Minutes from April 06, 2017 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html

 

4.        Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]

a.     Action items due

                                  i.    None

 

5.        V4.01 [8:20 am PT]

a.     Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution

                                  i.    ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality

                                 ii.    ODATA-1037 Add tagging term Core.Deprecated to mark deprecated model elements

b.     Document walkthrough

                                  i.    Part 1: Protocol – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx

                                 ii.    Part 2: URL Conventions – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx

                                iii.    JSON Format – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx

                                iv.    CSDL JSON Representation – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx

                                 v.    CSDL XML Representation – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx

                                vi.    New in OData 4.01 – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx

 

6.        Next meeting [9:50 am PT]

a.     Thursday April 20, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT

 

7.        AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]

 

[2] References

·         Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

·         Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc

 

[3] Timeline

·         https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx

 

 

 



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