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Subject: RE: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2017-05-11 - chat transcript


[15:14] Room information was updated by: Stefan Hagen
OASIS Open Data Protocol (OData) TC OData TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #174
- Thursday, 11 May 2017, 07:00am to 10:00am PDT
  - i.e. 2017-05-11 16:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
  - other timezone? Try eg.:
  - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=69&p3=179
 
UsefulPlaces:
- Chat:
  - http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc   # ... this place 
- ScreenShare and Voice:
  - https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Next Planned meetings (tentative):
- Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT? (2017-05-18 17:00 to 20:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43978
- Thursday May 25, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-05-25 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43979
    - public holiday in Germany: quorum critical, moderator needed
- Thursday June 01, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT? (2017-06-01 16:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43980
 
Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = "">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/odata/201705/msg00021.html
 
Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60691/odata-meeting-173_on-20170504-minutes.html
 
Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "">https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Timeline:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx
 
Agenda Draft (for meeting #174):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from May 04, 2017 TC meeting #173: |
    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60691/odata-meeting-173_on-20170504-minutes.html
- Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php]
  - Action items due
    - None
- V4.01
  - Document walkthrough
    - Part 1: Protocol |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx
      - Finished
    - Part 2: URL Conventions |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx
      - Continue from section 4.4 Addressing References between Entities
    - JSON Format |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx
    - CSDL JSON Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx
    - CSDL XML Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx
    - New in OData 4.01 |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx
  - Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
    - ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
    - ODATA-1070 Clarify text related to Canonical URL
    - ODATA-1071 Nullable Collection Navigation Property
- Next meetings
  - Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT (17:00-20:00 CEST)  one hour longer
  - Thursday May 25, 2017 during 8-10 PDT? 
     public holiday in Germany: quorum critical, moderator needed
  - Thursday June 01, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT (16:00-19:00 CEST)?
- AOB and wrap up
 
Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43977
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43977&confirmed=1

 

[15:45] Stefan: PingToKeepRoomInfo

 

[16:03] Michael Pizzo: Good day all; thanks for joining in early today. Looking forward to a productive meeting!

 

[16:03] anonymous morphed into George Ericson (Dell)

 

[16:03] Martin Zurmuehl (SAP SE): Hi, we are already dialed in; good morning!

 

[16:04] Michael Pizzo: I got prompted to reinstall adobe connect. Dialing in now...

 

[16:07] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): Good afternoon, I have to apologize myself for the first hour, sorry, work is getting in the way.

 

[16:23] Michael Pizzo: Discussed next steps; closing OData 4.01, pushing stuff that didn't fit to 4.02, next step to work on REST profile of OData 4.01.
[16:23] Michael Pizzo: Approved Agenda
[16:23] Michael Pizzo: Approved Minutes
[16:24] Michael Pizzo: Started review of URL Conventions

 

Room Information:
OASIS Open Data Protocol (OData) TC OData TC Weekly Meeting (Conference Call) #174
- Thursday, 11 May 2017, 07:00am to 10:00am PDT
  - i.e. 2017-05-11 16:00 to 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
  - other timezone? Try eg.:
  - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2017&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=69&p3=179
 
UsefulPlaces:
- Chat:
  - http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc   # ... this place 
- ScreenShare and Voice:
  - https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Next Planned meetings (tentative):
- Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT? (2017-05-18 17:00 to 20:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43978
- Thursday May 25, 2017 during 8-10 am PDT? (2017-05-25 17:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43979
    - public holiday in Germany: quorum critical, moderator needed
- Thursday June 01, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT? (2017-06-01 16:00 to 19:00 CEST) ?
  - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43980
 
Agenda-Draft E-Mail URL:
- E-Mail Public URL = "">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/odata/201705/msg00021.html
 
Minutes Draft Public URL (previous meeting):
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60691/odata-meeting-173_on-20170504-minutes.html
 
Online document walkthroughs or presentations:
- URL = "">https://sap.emea.pgiconnect.com/OData-TC/
 
Timeline:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx
 
Agenda Draft (for meeting #174):
- Roll call
- Approve agenda 
- Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
  - Minutes from May 04, 2017 TC meeting #173: |
    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60691/odata-meeting-173_on-20170504-minutes.html
- Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php]
  - Action items due
    - None
- V4.01
  - Document walkthrough
    - Part 1: Protocol |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx
      - Finished
    - Part 2: URL Conventions |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx
      - Continue from section 4.4 Addressing References between Entities
    - JSON Format |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx
    - CSDL JSON Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx
    - CSDL XML Representation |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx
    - New in OData 4.01 |
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx
  - Issues for V4.01_CSD02 ready for resolution
    - ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
    - ODATA-1070 Clarify text related to Canonical URL
    - ODATA-1071 Nullable Collection Navigation Property
- Next meetings
  - Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT (17:00-20:00 CEST)  one hour longer
  - Thursday May 25, 2017 during 8-10 PDT? 
     public holiday in Germany: quorum critical, moderator needed
  - Thursday June 01, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT (16:00-19:00 CEST)?
- AOB and wrap up
 
Meeting Member URL:
- URL = "">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=43977
  - Please use starting approx. 15 minutes before the meeting for self registration. Thanks.
  - Self registration deep link (as a service):
    - https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/record_my_attendance.php?event_id=43977&confirmed=1

 

[16:30] Martin Zurmuehl (SAP SE): Welcome Ralf!

 

[16:43] Michael Pizzo: Products/$filter=$f/Top10()?$f=Category eq 'Auto'
[16:44] Michael Pizzo: Products/$filter=@f/Top10()?@f=Category eq 'Auto'
[16:44] Michael Pizzo: Products/$filter=@f/Top10()/$count?@f=Category eq 'Auto'
[16:45] Michael Pizzo: Products/$filter=@f/Top10()?$filter=Price gt 10 & @f=Category eq 'Auto'
[16:46] Michael Pizzo: Products/$filter=@f/Top10()/$count?$filter=Price gt 10 & @f=Category eq 'Auto'
[17:33] Michael Pizzo: Result of an action may be: {"value":[{a=1,b=2},{a=2,b=3}]}
[17:33] Michael Pizzo: What would be the result of an array of actions that returned collections?
[17:34] Michael Pizzo: Possibility 1: {"value":[[{a=1,b=2},{a=2,b=3}],[{a=4,b=5}]]}
[17:36] Michael Pizzo: Other possibility: {"value":[{"value":[{a=1,b=2},{a=2,b=3}]},{"value":[{a=4,b=5}]}]}
[17:41] Michael Pizzo: <Action Name="foo"><ReturnType="fooReturn"></Action>
[17:42] Michael Pizzo: <ComplexType Name="fooReturn"><Property Name="a" Type="Edm.Int32"/><Property Name="b" Type="Edm.Int32"/></ComplexType>
[17:43] Michael Pizzo: <Action Name="fooCollection"><ReturnType="Collection(fooReturn)"/></Action>
[18:07] Michael Pizzo: We have a new issue ODATA_1074 to consider the results of /$each applied to a (collection returning) function or action.
[18:08] Michael Pizzo: OData-1074 is open.

 

[18:08] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): I move to resolve ODATA-1074 as proposed.

 

[18:09] Martin Zurmuehl (SAP SE): I second

 

[18:09] Michael Pizzo: OData-1074 is approved by unanimous consent.
[18:40] Michael Pizzo: ralf is considering opening an issue to consider not using the in operator for collections as it may limit us when considering collections of collections.

 

[18:41] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): a in [a,b,c]
[18:41] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): [a] in [[a],[a,b]]
[18:42] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): [a] subsetof [a,b,c]

 

[18:43] Michael Pizzo: [a] in [a,b,c] = false?

 

[18:44] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Yes

 

[18:44] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): a subsetof [a,b,c] => false

 

[18:44] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): yes

 

[18:45] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): [a,b] in [a,b,c]

 

[18:46] Michael Pizzo: false
[18:46] Michael Pizzo: [a,b] subsetof [a,b,c] => true

 

[18:48] Ralf Handl (SAP SE): Issue ODATA-1075 - Introduce subsetof operator for checking whether a collection is a subset or equal to another collection has been successfully created.

 

[18:48] Michael Pizzo: [a] subsetof [a,b,c] => true
[18:48] Michael Pizzo: a in [a,b,c] => true
[18:49] Michael Pizzo: [a] in [[a],[a,b]] => true
[18:51] Michael Pizzo: OData-1075 is open

 

[18:51] Hubert Heijkers (IBM): I move to resolve ODATA-1075 as proposed

 

[18:52] George Ericson (Dell): I second

 

[18:53] Michael Pizzo: OData-1075 is approved by unanimous consent.
[18:59] Michael Pizzo: Next meeting: Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT (17:00-20:00 CEST)  one hour longer
[19:00] Michael Pizzo: We will start next week with section 5.1.1.5, String Functions in URL Conventions.
[19:00] Michael Pizzo: Meeting adjourned at 10:00am.

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017 08:48
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2017-05-11

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday May 11, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT (16:00-19:00 CEST) – one hour earlier! For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

 

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

 

1.           Roll call [7:00 am PT]

a.      Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/manage/modify_event.php?day=&event_id=43977

 

2.           Approve agenda [7:05 am PT]

 

3.           Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [7:10 am PT]

a.      Minutes from May 04, 2017 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60456/odata-meeting-169_on-20170406-minutes.html

 

4.           Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php] [8:15am PT]

a.      Action items due

                                             i.     None

 

5.           V4.01 [7:20 am PT]

a.      Document walkthrough

                                             i.      Part 1: Protocol – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60366/odata-v4.01-wd02-part1-protocol-2017-03-24.docx

1.      finished

                                           ii.      Part 2: URL Conventions – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60367/odata-v4.01-wd02-part2-url-conventions-2017-03-24.docx

1.      Continue from section 4.4 Addressing References between Entities

                                          iii.      JSON Format – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60365/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd02-2017-03-24.docx

                                          iv.      CSDL JSON Representation – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60500/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-10.docx

                                           v.      CSDL XML Representation – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60499/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd02-2017-04-10.docx

                                          vi.      New in OData 4.01 – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/60439/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd01-2017-04-05.docx

b.      Issues for V4.01_CSD02

                                             i.      ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality

                                           ii.      ODATA-1070 Clarify text related to Canonical URL

                                          iii.      ODATA-1071 Nullable Collection Navigation Property

 

6.           Next meetings [9:50 am PT]

a.      Thursday May 18, 2017 during 8-11 am PDT (17:00-20:00 CEST) – one hour longer

b.      Thursday May 25, 2017 during 8-10 PDT? – public holiday in Germany: quorum critical, moderator needed

c.      Thursday June 01, 2017 during 7-10 am PDT (16:00-19:00 CEST)?

 

7.           AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]

 

[2] References

·        Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/56760/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

·        Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc

 

[3] Timeline

·        https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/59862/TC%20Timeline-2017-01-25.docx

 

 

 



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