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Subject: RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-04-04 - chat transcript
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No soaphub today [â04.â04.â2019 17:02]
Voting Members: 6 of 9 (66%) (used for quorum calculation)
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Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday April 04, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CET). For additional information,
such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.
Thanks.
[1] Agenda
1. Roll call [8:00 am PT]
1.
Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=47980
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1. Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]
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i. ODATA-1297 JSON Batch: clarify values of body property, context URL, batch in batch, continue-on-error
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Do this before document walkthrough [â04.â04.â2019 17:05]
1. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]
1.
Minutes from March 07, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64931/Minutes%20of%202019-03-07%20Meeting%20%23250.docx
Minutes from March 21, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64933/Minutes%20of%202019-03-21%20Meeting%20%23252.docx
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Meeting minutes are approved [â04.â04.â2019 17:07]
1. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15am PT]
1.
Upcoming
i. #0037 Concept
for Google Protocol Buffers as a data format â Hubert Heijkers â 2019-06-27
1.
In progress
i. #0036 Register
the OData- headers and preferences with IANA â Mark Biamonte â 2018-07-26
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Face-to-face [â04.â04.â2019 17:08]
Hubert: August in New Zealand [â04.â04.â2019 17:10]
Topics: [â04.â04.â2019 17:10]
- Temporal [â04.â04.â2019 17:10]
- REST-EZ [â04.â04.â2019 17:10]
- Infrastructure / make producing and consuming OData easier [â04.â04.â2019 17:11]
- Aggregation [â04.â04.â2019 17:13]
Possible dates: [â04.â04.â2019 17:14]
George to create a Doodle for possible Calendar weeks [â04.â04.â2019 17:14]
Location proposals are welcome! [â04.â04.â2019 17:17]
Which continent/country would suit most members [â04.â04.â2019 17:18]
Hubert can offer Ottawa [â04.â04.â2019 17:18]
Mike can host in Redmond [â04.â04.â2019 17:19]
George can host in Hopkinton, Massachusetts [â04.â04.â2019 17:21]
CW24, June 10-14 [â04.â04.â2019 17:22]
CW30, July 22-26 [â04.â04.â2019 17:22]
CW31, July 29-August 02 [â04.â04.â2019 17:23]
CW25, June 17-21 [â04.â04.â2019 17:26]
Typical schedule: arrive Mon, pre-meeting Tue-Wed, meeting Thu-Fri [â04.â04.â2019 17:27]
ODATA-1297 JSON Batch: clarify values of body property, context URL, batch in batch, continue-on-error
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No Title
Clarify:
1.
Can the body property
in request/response object have the value null? If yes, does this mean "empty body" or "no body"?
See also next question.
2.
Can responses with status:204 have
a body?
3.
"Textual media types" are represented as a string: what exactly are "textual media types"?
4.
RFC 7230 distinguishes between "message body" and "payload body": which one is body,
i.e. can a Transfer-Encoding (gzip, chunked, ...) be applied?
5.
What is the context URL of a JSON batch request or JSON batch response?
6.
Can a request object within a JSON batch request be itself a (JSON) batch request?
7.
Why do we allow the preference continue-on-error=false at
all? The client can specify explicit dependencies with dependsOn if it wants certain dependency
chains to stop at first error.
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Mike: omit body property if there is no body [â04.â04.â2019 17:33] Ericson, George:
Agree with Mike. Simplifies implementation logic. [â04.â04.â2019 17:34]
Hubert: allow body:null even with status:204
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1: yes, means "no body" [â04.â04.â2019 17:35]
2: yes [â04.â04.â2019 17:36] Ericson, George:
Concensus is omit or xxx:null are equivalent representations. [â04.â04.â2019 17:37]
3: text/* [â04.â04.â2019 17:37]
application/xml [â04.â04.â2019 17:40]
Ralf to prepare list what is "textual" [â04.â04.â2019 17:40]
Check if IANA registration already provides that information [â04.â04.â2019 17:42]
Hubert: concrete list only reflects currently existing media types [â04.â04.â2019 17:43]
4: Hubert: compression and chunking apply to the JSON batch, not the nested bodies [â04.â04.â2019 17:44]
Mike: would expect that body can be compressed/chunked, would be reflected in Transfer-Encoding header [â04.â04.â2019 17:45]
Hubert: why not [â04.â04.â2019 17:46]
5: explicitly mention that these don't have a context URL [â04.â04.â2019 17:46]
Hubert: with minimal metadata it would be nice [â04.â04.â2019 17:46]
@context:x$batch [â04.â04.â2019 17:47]
@context: #batch-response [â04.â04.â2019 17:48]
would be $batchResponse to fit in with current naming scheme [â04.â04.â2019 17:49]
Mike: would want it optional - already implemented - which would make it less useful [â04.â04.â2019 17:54]
5: no context URL [â04.â04.â2019 17:55]
6: should already be disallowed [â04.â04.â2019 18:00]
7: If processing stops in error the batch response can be incomplete, whereas with dependsOn the batch response would have a response for each individual request which has status:412
if the request has been skipped due to a failed dependency [â04.â04.â2019 18:10]
Ralf to craft a proposal for this issue [â04.â04.â2019 18:11]
1. V4.01: Document Walkthrough
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1.
Part 1: Protocol â https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64946/odata-v4.01-wd06-part1-protocol-2019-03-22.docx
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[â04.â04.â2019 18:57] Ericson, George:
Continue next week at clause 10.8 [â04.â04.â2019 18:57]
Continue walkthrough on Protocol starting at section 10.8 [â04.â04.â2019 19:00]
Hubert: check if OData-Error header needs to be in first chunk (header part) to be allowed as a trailing header [â04.â04.â2019 19:00]
1. Next meetings [9:50 am PT]
1.
Thursday April 11, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CET)
2.
Thursday April 18, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CET)
3.
Thursday April 25, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CET)
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Mike cannot attend April 11 [â04.â04.â2019 19:02]
Gerald cannot attend April 25 [â04.â04.â2019 19:02]
1. AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]
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Meeting is adjourned From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org>
On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting
scheduled on
Thursday April 04, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CET).
For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.
Thanks.
[1]
Agenda
1.
Roll call [8:00 am PT]
2.
Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]
3.
Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]
4.
Review action items [Action item list:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15am PT]
i. #0037
Concept for Google Protocol Buffers as a data format â Hubert Heijkers â 2019-03-28
i. #0036
Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA â Mark Biamonte â 2018-07-26
5.
V4.01: Document Walkthrough
6.
Issues [8:20 am PT]
i. ODATA-1285
ODATA-1099 / Add ReadByKeyRestrictions similar to ReadRestrictions
i. ODATA-1296
Explicitly allow the underscore in a search word
ii. ODATA-1005
Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality
i. ODATA-1218
Transformations for recursive hierarchy processing
ii. ODATA-945
Correct examples 53 and 54
i. ODATA-1264
CRUDQ descriptions on entity sets
i. ODATA-1275
Describing and querying "JSON properties"
ii. ODATA-1214
Annotate constructor actions
iii. ODATA-1140
ODATA-884 / Add details to HttpResponse
iv. ODATA-1107
Introduce instance annotation to specify which types an instance "implements"
v. ODATA-1060
Improve specification of element response requirements
vi. ODATA-884
Allow describing possible responses to requests for a particular resource (public comment c201510e00019)
7.
Next meetings [9:50 am PT]
8.
AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT] [2]
References
[3]
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