RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-04-18

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:05] Hubert Heijkers:

It's me, Hubert

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:05]

Voting Members: 7 of 9 (77%) (used for quorum calculation)

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:05] Hubert Heijkers:

Having technical difficulties

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:05] Hubert Heijkers:

Sitting in a building in Seattle

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:07] Hubert Heijkers:

This Chat is fine for me!

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:09] Ericson, George:

Move to utiliize Skype chat

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:09] Mike Pizzo:

I second

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:09] Hubert Heijkers:

FYI, I'm obviously in Seattle for a reason, so can only be here fore the first (almost) hour.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:09]

No objections, moving over to Skype.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:09]

Ralf to adapt dial-in info

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:10] Hubert Heijkers:

We can pick that up tomorrow Mike;-!

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:10]

1. Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:11]

George: Face-to-face meeting

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:11]

1. Discuss:
Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

i. ODATA-1264 CRUDQ descriptions on entity sets

1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/40/files

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:11]

Agenda is approved with these changes

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:12]

1. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]

3. Minutes from April 11, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65126/Minutes%20of%202019-04-11%20Meeting%20%23254.docx

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:12]

Minutes are approved

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:12]

1. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15am PT]

1. Upcoming

i. #0037 Concept for Google Protocol Buffers as a data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-06-27

1. In progress

i. #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:13]

No news on IANA registration

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:14]

https://doodle.com/poll/wmnanin79479ynbm

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:14]

Winner is CW25, June 17-21

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:15]

Mike can host in Seattle/Redmond

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:15]

George can arrange Massachusetts

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:16] Ericson, George:

AI: Mike/George confirm availability.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:18]

Near Boston / Framingham, approx. 1 h drive from Boston airport

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:19]

1. Applied Issues [8:20 am PT]

1. APPLIED

i. ODATA-1177 Embed "JSON properties" in OData JSON requests and responses

1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/46/files

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:21]

I move to merge pull request https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/46/files

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:21] Ericson, George:

second

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:22]

No objection, motion passes

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:28]

1. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

i. ODATA-1264 CRUDQ descriptions on entity sets

1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/40/files

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:28]

I move to resolve ODATA-1264 as proposed

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:28] Mike Pizzo:

I second

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:28] Hubert Heijkers:

I second

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:29]

No objections, ODATA-1264 is RESOLVED as proposed

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:29]

I move to merge pull request https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/40/files

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:29] Hubert Heijkers:

I second

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:29]

No objections, motion passes

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:30]

1. V4.01: Document Walkthrough [8:25 am PT]

1. Part 1: Protocol – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65065/odata-v4.01-wd06-part1-protocol-2019-04-04.docx

i. Continue with section 11.4.2.2 Create Related Entities When Creating an Entity

ii. Discuss in this context: ODATA-1298 Deprecate media entities, recommend stream properties

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:35]

Huberts expectation is that POST to an entity set always requires well-formed OData request body and never accepts anything other than OData formats

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:36]

Mike expects that POST to a "media entity set" always creates a media resource, independent of its content-type

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:38]

ODATA-1298 is OPEN

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:40]

Mike: recommend streams over media entities, do not deprecate

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:41]

George: deprecation is only a statement of intention to remove it in a future major version

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:41]

Mike: deprecation has a negative flavor

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:41]

Mike: there are situations where media entities are the correct modeling variant

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:43]

George: can we document when to use media entities, and when to use stream properties?

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:44] Mike Pizzo:

11.4.7.1 Create a Media Entity
A POST request to a media entity's entity set creates a new media entity. The request body MUST contain the media value (for example, the photograph) whose media type MUST be specified in a Content-Type header.
Upon successful completion, the response MUST contain Location header that contains the edit URL of the created entity.
Upon successful completion the service responds with either 201 Created, or 204 No Content if the request included a return Prefer header with a value of return=minimal.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:46]

Ralf: explcitly mention that this also applies to content-type:application/json

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:47]

Ralf: could use section 11.4.7 to give guidance on when to use which

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:48]

Mike: also add this to CSDL specifications to have it at hand for the service modeler

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 17:58]

I move to reopen ODATA-1129

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 18:11]

I withdraw this motion

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 18:12] Mike Pizzo:

Clarified that nested media entities can be inserted, and any media entity can be updated, using the $value virtual property.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 19:00] Ericson, George:

Pickup next time at: 11.4.9.1 Update a Primitive Property.

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 19:01]

1. Next meetings [9:50 am PT]

1. Thursday April 25, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

2. Thursday May 02, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) – Mike will moderate

3. Thursday May 09, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

1. AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]

[‎18.‎04.‎2019 19:01]

Meeting is adjourned

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Dienstag, 16. April 2019 12:10
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [CAUTION] [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-04-18

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday April 18, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

Thanks.

[1] Agenda

1. Roll call [8:00 am PT]

Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=47982

2. Approve agenda [8:05 am PT]

3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) [8:10 am PT]

Minutes from April 11, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65126/Minutes%20of%202019-04-11%20Meeting%20%23254.docx

4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15am PT]

Upcoming

i. #0037 Concept for Google Protocol Buffers as a data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-06-27

In progress

i. #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

5. Applied Issues [8:20 am PT]

APPLIED

i. ODATA-1177 Embed "JSON properties" in OData JSON requests and responses

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/46/files

6. V4.01: Document Walkthrough [8:25 am PT]

Part 1: Protocol – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65065/odata-v4.01-wd06-part1-protocol-2019-04-04.docx

i. Continue with section 11.4.2.2 Create Related Entities When Creating an Entity

ii. Discuss in this context: ODATA-1298 Deprecate media entities, recommend stream properties

Part 2: URL Conventions – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64682/odata-v4.01-wd06-part2-url-conventions-2019-02-08.docx
CSDL JSON – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64947/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-wd05-2019-03-22.docx
CSDL XML – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64948/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-wd06-2019-03-22.docx
JSON Format – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64925/odata-json-format-v4.01-wd06-2019-03-15.docx
What’s New – https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64737/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd03.docx

7. Open Issues – skip

V4.01: NEW or OPEN

i. ODATA-1299 Continue-on-Error for Collection requests

ii. ODATA-1298 Deprecate media entities, recommend stream properties

iii. ODATA-1297 JSON Batch: clarify values of body property, context URL, batch in batch, continue-on-error

iv. ODATA-1296 Allow all non-whitespace characters in a search word, and allow unbalanced quotes and parentheses

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-abnf/pull/18/files

v. ODATA-1005 Make sure we have capabilities for all new 4.01 functionality

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/45/files

Data Aggregation: NEW or OPEN

i. ODATA-1218 Transformations for recursive hierarchy processing

ii. ODATA-945 Correct examples 53 and 54

Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

i. ODATA-1264 CRUDQ descriptions on entity sets

https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/40/files

Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN that need more discussion

i. ODATA-1275 Describing and querying "JSON properties"

ii. ODATA-1214 Annotate constructor actions

iii. ODATA-1140 ODATA-884 / Add details to HttpResponse

iv. ODATA-1107 Introduce instance annotation to specify which types an instance "implements"

v. ODATA-1060 Improve specification of element response requirements

vi. ODATA-884 Allow describing possible responses to requests for a particular resource (public comment c201510e00019)

8. Next meetings [9:50 am PT]

Thursday April 25, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)
Thursday May 02, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) – Mike will moderate
Thursday May 09, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

9. AOB and wrap up [9:55 am PT]

[2] References

Chat room: https://soaphub.org/conf/room/odatatc
Conference call & Screen sharing: https://lync.co.sap.com/meet/ralf.handl/Q4QB1098
Conference call details: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/download.php/63673/latest/TC%20meeting%20dial-in%20details.htm

[3] Timeline

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/64563/TC%20Timeline%202019-01-23.docx

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