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Subject: RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-09-26 - chat transcript
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[26.09.2019 16:57]
[1] Agenda
1. Roll call [8:00 am]
a. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48005
Voting Members: 1 of 9 (11%) (used for quorum calculation)
Voting Members: 3 of 9 (33%) (used for quorum calculation)
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Voting Members: 4 of 9 (44%) (used for quorum calculation)
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Voting Members: 5 of 9 (55%) (used for quorum calculation)
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Achieved quorum: yes [26.09.2019 17:02]
Voting Members: 6 of 9 (66%) (used for quorum calculation)
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2. Approve agenda [8:05 am]
[26.09.2019 17:04]
Mike: discuss
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-1334 first [26.09.2019 17:05] Mike Pizzo:
We have reached quorum: Voting Members: 6 of 9 (66%) (used for quorum calculation) [26.09.2019 17:05]
Agenda is approved with the above change [26.09.2019 17:05]
3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)
a. Minutes from September 19, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65937/Minutes%20of%202019-09-19%20Meeting%20%23268.docx
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Minutes are approved [26.09.2019 17:06]
No Title
4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date]
[8:15 am]
a. Upcoming
i. #0039 Concept
for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-10-31
ii. #0037 Concept
for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26
iii. #0036 Register
the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26
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iii: registration documents forwarded to IANA, waiting for approval [26.09.2019 17:09]
Mark to follow up on comment from
Sabrina
Tanamal
[26.09.2019 17:11]
Mike to work with Mark on response [26.09.2019 17:12]
4.5
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-1334
[26.09.2019 17:12]
Mismatch in
ModificationException term naming
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Description
In our last F2F we added a new term for annotating failed data modifications within a bulk (i.e., delta) payload. We went back and forth on the naming, and ended up
with different names between the vocabulary and the protocol document.
The protocol document, in section 11.4.12, Update a Collection of Entities, refers to the "Core.DataModificationException". However, the
Core vocabulary defines "ModificationException" along with "ModificationExceptionType" and "ModificationOperationKind".
[26.09.2019 17:13]
Proposal:
a. Update the protocol document to refer to "Core.ModificationException", or
I
kinda prefer the prefixed name (b), although it is slightly longer. However, the vocabulary changes are "live" where-as the protocol document has not yet been finalized, so b) would technically be a breaking change to anyone using
the new vocabulary term, although it could be argued that it's unlikely that people are already using that term.
[26.09.2019 17:14]
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/60/files
[26.09.2019 17:16]
ODATA-1334 is OPEN [26.09.2019 17:16] Mike Pizzo:
I propose we resolve ODATA-1334 as proposed.
I move we resolve ODATA-1334 as proposed. [26.09.2019 17:16] Ericson, George:
Second [26.09.2019 17:17]
ODATA-1334 is RESOLVED as proposed [26.09.2019 17:19] Mike Pizzo:
I move to merge https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/60/files and close ODATA-1334 as applied. [26.09.2019 17:19] Ericson, George:
second [26.09.2019 17:19]
ODATA-1334 is CLOSED as applied [26.09.2019 17:20]
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5. Submit V4.01 for Public Review [8:20 am]
a. Sample Motions
i. Part 1 and Part 2:
I move that the TC approve OData V4.01 Working Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65930/odata-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:28] Mike Pizzo:
I move that the TC approve OData V4.01 Working Draft 07 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65930/odata-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:28] Ericson, George:
Second [26.09.2019 17:30]
Motion passes [26.09.2019 17:30]
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ii. JSON Format:
I move that the TC approve OData JSON Format V4.01 Working Draft 07 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65931/odata-json-format-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review.
[26.09.2019 17:32] Mike Pizzo:
I move that the TC approve OData JSON Format V4.01 Working Draft 07 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65931/odata-json-format-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:32] Hubert Heijkers:
I second [26.09.2019 17:33]
No objection, motion passes [26.09.2019 17:33]
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iii. CSDL XML:
I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation V4.01 Working Draft 07 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65932/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review.
[26.09.2019 17:38] Mike Pizzo:
I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation V4.01 Working Draft 07 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65932/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:38] Ericson, George:
Second [26.09.2019 17:38]
No objections, motion passes [26.09.2019 17:39]
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iv. CSDL JSON:
I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) JSON Representation V4.01 Working Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65967/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-csd05-2019-09-26.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 05 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 05 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:42] Mike Pizzo:
I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) JSON Representation V4.01 Working Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65967/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-csd05-2019-09-26.zip as
Committee Specification Draft 05 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 05 for 15 days of public review. [26.09.2019 17:43] Hubert Heijkers:
I second [26.09.2019 17:43]
No objections, motion passes [26.09.2019 17:43]
v. What's New:
I move that the TC approve What's New in OData Version V4.01 Working Draft 04 uploaded as https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65929/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd04-2019-09-20-final.docx as
Committee Note 04 and designate the Microsoft Word version as authoritative.
[26.09.2019 17:48] Mike Pizzo:
I move that the TC approve What's New in OData Version V4.01 Working Draft 04 uploaded as https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65929/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd04-2019-09-20-final.docx as
Committee Note 04 and designate the Microsoft Word version as authoritative. [26.09.2019 17:48] Hubert Heijkers:
I second [26.09.2019 17:48]
No objections, motion passes
[26.09.2019 17:49]
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6. Issues [9:20 am]
a. APPLIED
i. ODATA-1327 Extend
applicability of Core.MediaType and
Core.AcceptableMediaTypes to non-stream (string/binary) properties and terms
1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/58/files
[26.09.2019 17:56] Hubert Heijkers:
I move to accept PR 58 and close ODATA-1327 as applied. [26.09.2019 17:56] Mike Pizzo:
I second [26.09.2019 17:57]
ODATA-1327 is CLOSED as applied [26.09.2019 18:00]
George to start a Glossary document [26.09.2019 18:01] Mike Pizzo:
Do we want a committee note or a working product? [26.09.2019 18:02]
George: could reference glossary, or incorporate copies of relevant definitions [26.09.2019 18:02] Mike Pizzo:
We should verify whether a standard can reference (normatively?) a committee note. [26.09.2019 18:08] Mike Pizzo:
Could we do wiki pages (perhaps on
github) for broader concepts (like containment) and reference those from the glossary? [26.09.2019 18:13]
One-Pagers for specific topics [26.09.2019 18:13]
- containment [26.09.2019 18:13]
- delta and next links [26.09.2019 18:13]
- etags [26.09.2019 18:13]
- media entities [26.09.2019 18:13]
- stream properties [26.09.2019 18:14]
- versioning [26.09.2019 18:15]
new github repo oasis-tcs/odata [26.09.2019 18:16]
oasis-tcs/odata-glossary [26.09.2019 18:21]
To create a new github repo we need to decide on info similar to
[26.09.2019 18:29]
odata-docs [26.09.2019 18:29]
odata-glossary [26.09.2019 18:30]
just "odata" as a landing repository that links to other repos and has sub-structure for any kind of documentation [26.09.2019 18:33] Ericson, George:
odata is a general landing page for all OData repositories
odata-glossary is a repository for maintaining a glossary of terms common
across the OData ecosystem. [26.09.2019 18:35] Ericson, George:
odata-docs is a repository for publishing
odata specifications and other documents [26.09.2019 18:36] Ericson, George:
Alternative
odata/docs and odata/glossary [26.09.2019 18:38] Ericson, George:
odata is a general landing page for all OData repositories and a container
for glossaries, specifications, and other documents related to the OData ecosystem
[26.09.2019 18:40] Ericson, George:
Motion to have the chairs request creation of an
odata repository described as: A general landing page for all OData repositories and a container for glossaries, specifications, and other documents related to the OData ecosystem. [26.09.2019 18:40] Hubert Heijkers:
I second
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[26.09.2019 18:48]
George will also be a maintainer
[26.09.2019 18:49]
Hubert: check state of ANTLR work and decide whether we want a new repo for that [26.09.2019 18:49]
7. Next meetings [9:50 am]
a. Thursday October 03, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) – public holiday in Germany
b. Thursday October 10, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)
c. Thursday October 17, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)
d. Thursday October 24, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)
[26.09.2019 18:50]
Hubert cannot attend next week [26.09.2019 18:50]
Gerald and Ralf are on holiday [26.09.2019 18:50]
Let's skip October 3rd [26.09.2019 18:50]
Next meeting October 10, 2019 [26.09.2019 18:50]
8. AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]
[26.09.2019 18:51]
Meeting
is adjourned From: Michael Pizzo <mikep@microsoft.com>
We should probably (at least briefly) discuss the disposition of
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-1334 before reviewing the docs. If the TC agrees to fix the vocabulary, as proposed (and optimistically applied – thanks Ralf!) then we can go ahead with
progressing the protocol doc, but if we were to decide to instead change the protocol doc then we would want to do that first. Thanks, -Mike From:
odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org>
On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf New zip file for CSDL JSON From:
odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org>
On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting
scheduled on
Thursday September 26, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST).
For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.
Thanks.
[1] Agenda 1. Roll call [8:00 am] a. Self-registration link:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48005 2. Approve agenda [8:05 am] 3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s) a.
Minutes from September 19, 2019 TC meeting:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65937/Minutes%20of%202019-09-19%20Meeting%20%23268.docx
4. Review action items [Action item list:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15 am] a. Upcoming i. #0039
Concept for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-10-31 ii. #0037
Concept for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26 iii. #0036
Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26
5. Submit V4.01 for Public Review [8:20 am] a. Sample Motions i. Part 1 and Part 2: I move that the TC approve OData V4.01 Working Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged together in
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65930/odata-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the
aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review.
ii. JSON Format: I move that the TC approve OData JSON Format V4.01 Working Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged
together in
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65931/odata-json-format-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve
submitting the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review.
iii. CSDL XML: I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation V4.01 Working
Draft 06 and all associated artifacts packaged together in
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65932/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-csd06-2019-09-20.zip as Committee Specification Draft 06 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting
the aforementioned Committee Specification Draft 06 for 15 days of public review.
iv. CSDL JSON: I move that the TC approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) JSON Representation V4.01 Working
Draft 05 and all associated artifacts packaged together in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65967/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-csd05-2019-09-26.zip
as Committee Specification Draft 05 and designate the Microsoft Word version of the specification as authoritative. I further move that the TC approve submitting the aforementioned
Committee Specification Draft 05 for 15 days of public review.
v. What's New: I move that the TC approve What's New in OData Version V4.01 Working Draft 04 uploaded as
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65929/new-in-odata-v4.01-wd04-2019-09-20-final.docx as Committee Note 04 and designate the Microsoft Word version as authoritative.
6. Issues [9:20 am]
a.
APPLIED i.
ODATA-1327 Extend applicability of Core.MediaType and Core.AcceptableMediaTypes to non-stream (string/binary) properties and terms 1.
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/58/files
b. V4.01:
NEW or OPEN i.
ODATA-1323 Clarify representation of GEO literals in annotations (XML, JSON) ii.
ODATA-1333 Add Terms, Abbreviated Terms, and Symbols sections to specifications c.
Vocabularies:
NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal i.
ODATA-1326 Enhance syntax of term Validation.OpenPropertyTypeConstraint 1.
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/59/files d.
Vocabularies:
NEW or OPEN that need more discussion i.
ODATA-1300
Capabilities: clarify CountRestrictions and ExpandRestrictions 1.
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/50/files ii.
ODATA-1275
Describing and querying "JSON properties" iii.
ODATA-1214 Annotate constructor actions iv.
ODATA-1140
Add details to HttpResponse v.
ODATA-1107
Introduce instance annotation to specify which types an instance "implements" vi.
ODATA-1060
Improve specification of element response requirements vii.
ODATA-884
Allow describing possible responses to requests for a particular resource (public comment c201510e00019) e. Data Aggregation:
NEW or OPEN i.
ODATA-1332 Support augmenting entities with aggregated values from related entities ii.
ODATA-1218 Transformations for recursive hierarchy processing iii.
ODATA-945 Correct examples 53 and 54 7. Next meetings [9:50 am] a. Thursday October 03, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) – public holiday in Germany b. Thursday October 10, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) c. Thursday October 17, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) d. Thursday October 24, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST) 8. AOB and wrap up [9:55 am] [2] References
[3] Timeline |
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