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Subject: RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-10-10 - chat transcript


[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:03] 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday October 10, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications. 

Thanks. 

[1] Agenda

              1. Roll call [8:00 am]

                            a. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48007  

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:03] 

Voting Members: 4 of 9 (44%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:04] 

Voting Members: 5 of 9 (55%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:04] 

Quorum achieved: yes

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:04] 

              2. Approve agenda [8:05 am]

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:07] 

              3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)

                            a. Minutes from September September 26, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65969/Minutes%20of%202019-09-26%20Meeting%20%23269.docx 

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:09] 

Minutes are approved

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:09] 

No Title

              4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15 am]

                            a. Upcoming

                                          i.            #0039 Concept for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-10-31

                                          ii.           #0037 Concept for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26

                                          iii.           #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:12] 

i. Won't happen this year, Hubert to set new date

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:12] 

iii. Mark and Mike working on a reply to the IANA comments

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:12] 

             5. Repeatable Requests [8:20 am]

                           a. Document Walkthrough

                                          i.            https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65983/repeatable-requests-v1.0-wd01-2019-09-27.docx 

 

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[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:22]  Mike Pizzo: 

I don't think it's legal to $select control information like @Core.ContentID, that may be represented differently in different formats (and would not want to encourage that pattern if it was supported). I would prefer instead to say that the @Core.ContentID is always returned if specified in the request.

 

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[‎10.‎10.‎2019 17:54]  Mike Pizzo: 

Need to spell out behavior of repeatable requests that are members of an atomicity group, are dependent on other requests, or have other requests dependent upon them.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:01] 

Matt will follow up with Evan and present the next iteration next week

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:02] 

Postpone #6 after #7 Isszues

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:02] 

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             7. Issues [9:40 am]

                           a. APPLIED

                                          i.            None

                           b. V4.01: NEW or OPEN

                                          i.            ODATA-1335 ABNF Does not allow selecting instance annotations

                                          ii.           ODATA-1333 Add Terms, Abbreviated Terms, and Symbols sections to specifications

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:03] 

 

                                          i.            ODATA-1335 ABNF Does not allow selecting instance annotations

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:05] 

http://docs.oasis-open.org/odata/odata/v4.01/csprd05/part2-url-conventions/odata-v4.01-csprd05-part2-url-conventions.html#_Toc14103726

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:06]  Mike Pizzo: 

The $select system query option allows clients to request a specific set of properties for each entity or complex type.
The $select query option is often used in conjunction with the $expand system query option, to define the extent of the resource graph to return ($expand) and then specify a subset of properties for each resource in the graph ($select). Expanded navigation properties MUST be returned, even if they are not specified in $select.
The [OData-ABNF] select syntax rule defines the formal grammar of the $select query option.
The value of $select is a comma-separated list of select items. Each select item is one of the following:
· a path, to include a property,
· a star (*), to include all declared or dynamic properties of the type, or
· a qualified schema name followed by a dot (.) followed by a star (*) to request all applicable actions or functions from that schema
A path consists of segments separated by a forward slash (/). Segments are either names of single- or collection-valued complex properties, instance annotations, or type-cast segments consisting of the qualified name of a structured type that is derived from the type identified by the preceding path segment to reach properties defined on the derived type.
A path can end with
· the name of a property or non-entity-valued instance annotation of the identified structured instance,
· the qualified name of a bound action,
· the qualified name of a bound function to include all matching overloads, or
· the qualified name of a bound function followed by parentheses containing the comma-separated lists of non-binding parameters identifying a single overload.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:08]  Mike Pizzo: 

ODATA-1335 closed without ation by submitter.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:08] 

                                          ii.           ODATA-1333 Add Terms, Abbreviated Terms, and Symbols sections to specifications

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:08]  Mike Pizzo: 

(previous ODATA-1335 closed without action by submitter)

 

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[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:22] 

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/ODATA-1327

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:23]  Ericson, George: 

Note: OData_Dictionary introduced

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:23] 

Extend applicability of Core.MediaType and Core.AcceptableMediaTypes to non-stream (string/binary) properties and terms

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:24] 

Missed extending the AppliesTo to allow MediaType / AcceptableMediaTypes to be applied to Term elements.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:27]  Ericson, George: 

Move to resolve ODATA 1327 as proposed and to merge the pull request.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:27]  Borges, Matt: 

I second

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:27] 

ODATA-1327 is RESOLVED as proposed

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:28]  Ericson, George: 

Move to close ODATA 1327 as applied.

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:28]  Borges, Matt: 

I second

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:28]  Mike Pizzo: 

I second

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:29] 

ODATA-1327 is CLOSED as applied

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:32] 

             6. Use of new Github “landing repo” [9:20 am]

                           a. Repo URL

                                         i.            https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata 

                           b. Open questions

                                         i.            Section “Further Description of this Repository”: who wants to craft a proposal?

                                         ii.           GitHub Pages: full master branch or just /docs folder?

                                         iii.           Directory structure and initial content

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:33] 

6.b.i proposed content

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:34] 

- links to our other repos

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:34] 

- description of the directory structure

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:34] 

- guidelines for use in this repo

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:37] 

- guideline for lifecycle and labelling of Github issues in this project - issues only for things in this repo

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:38] 

Content proposals

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:39] 

- one-pagers for specific topics (server-driven paging, media entities versus stream properties)

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:39] 

- FAQ

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:48] 

                                         ii.           GitHub Pages: full master branch or just /docs folder?

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:49] 

Proposal: use /docs folder of master branch

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:50] 

No objections

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:50] 

                                         iii.           Directory structure and initial content

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:52] 

Ralf to find out whether all content on Github Pages needs to be under /docs or whether it can reference stuff from sibling directories

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:53] 

e.g. can master/docs/README.md reference/link to master/something/foo.md

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:54] 

depending on this have folders under /docs or directly on root

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:54] 

Folders

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:54] 

/dictionary

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:54] 

/FAQ

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:54] 

/one-pager

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:56] 

Discussion on /dictionary versus /glossary

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:58] 

             8. Next meetings [9:50 am]

                           a.           Thursday October 17, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

                           b.           Thursday October 24, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

                           c.           Thursday October 31, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (16:00-18:00 CEST) – one hour earlier in Europe!

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 18:59] 

              9.  AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 19:00] 

Hierarchies as topic for next week

 

[‎10.‎10.‎2019 19:00] 

Meeting is adjourned

 

 

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2019 10:26
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [CAUTION] [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-10-10

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday October 10, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

      1. Roll call [8:00 am]

           a. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48007  

 

      2. Approve agenda [8:05 am]

 

      3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)

           a. Minutes from September September 26, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65969/Minutes%20of%202019-09-26%20Meeting%20%23269.docx

 

      4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15 am]

           a. Upcoming

                 i.    #0039 Concept for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2019-10-31

                 ii.   #0037 Concept for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26

                 iii.  #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

 

    5. Repeatable Requests [8:20 am]

          a. Document Walkthrough

                 i.    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/65983/repeatable-requests-v1.0-wd01-2019-09-27.docx

 

    6. Use of new Github “landing repo” [9:20 am]

          a. Repo URL

                i.    https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata

          b. Open questions

                i.    Section “Further Description of this Repository”: who wants to craft a proposal?

                ii.   GitHub Pages: full master branch or just /docs folder?

                iii.  Directory structure and initial content

 

    7. Issues [9:40 am]

          a. APPLIED

                 i.    None

 

          b. V4.01: NEW or OPEN

                 i.    ODATA-1335 ABNF Does not allow selecting instance annotations

                 ii.   ODATA-1333 Add Terms, Abbreviated Terms, and Symbols sections to specifications

 

          c. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

                i.    ODATA-1326 Enhance syntax of term Validation.OpenPropertyTypeConstraint

                     1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/59/files

 

          d. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN that need more discussion

                i.    ODATA-1300 Capabilities: clarify CountRestrictions and ExpandRestrictions

                     1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/50/files

                ii.   ODATA-1275 Describing and querying "JSON properties"

                iii.  ODATA-1214 Annotate constructor actions

                iv.  ODATA-1140 Add details to HttpResponse

                v.   ODATA-1107 Introduce instance annotation to specify which types an instance "implements"

                vi.  ODATA-1060 Improve specification of element response requirements

                vii. ODATA-884 Allow describing possible responses to requests for a particular resource (public comment c201510e00019)

 

           e. Data Aggregation: NEW or OPEN

                 i.    ODATA-1332 Support augmenting entities with aggregated values from related entities

                 ii.   ODATA-1218 Transformations for recursive hierarchy processing

                 iii.  ODATA-945 Correct examples 53 and 54

 

     8. Next meetings [9:50 am]

          a.  Thursday October 17, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

          b.  Thursday October 24, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (17:00-19:00 CEST)

          c.   Thursday October 31, 2019 during 8-10 am PDT (16:00-18:00 CEST) – one hour earlier in Europe!

 

      9.  AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]

 

[2] References

 

[3] Timeline

 



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