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Subject: RE: Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-11-07 - chat transcript


[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:02] 

Voting Members: 4 of 8 (50%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:04] 

Voting Members: 5 of 8 (62%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:04] 

Quorum achieved: yes

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:04] 

[1] Agenda

            1. Roll call [8:00 am]

                        a. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48011 

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:05] 

            2. Approve agenda [8:05 am]

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:05] 

Agenda is approved

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:06] 

            3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)

                        a. Minutes from October 31, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66143/Minutes%20of%202019-10-31%20Meeting%20%23273.docx

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:06] 

Minutes are approved

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:06] 

No Title

            4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15 am]

                        a. Upcoming

                                    i.          #0039 Concept for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-01-31

                                    ii.          #0037 Concept for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26

                                    iii.         #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:08] 

Voting Members: 8 of 8 (100%) (used for quorum calculation)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:11] 

Mike to contact Chet on correct procedure for submitting updated / partly provisional registration documents

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:11] 

No Title

           5. Issues [8:20 am]

                       a. APPLIED – already reviewed last week

                                    i.          ODATA-1337 Clarify use of @Core.ContentId in delta update

                       b. V4.01: NEW or OPEN

                                    i.          ODATA-1339 Make examples 8 (entity type) and 86 (record _expression_) consistent

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:18]  Ericson, George: 

Motion to approve OData-1339 as applied.

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:18]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I second

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:18] 

ODATA-1339 is RESOLVED as proposed

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:20]  Ericson, George: 

Motion to close OData-1337 and OData-1339 as applied

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:20]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I second

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:20] 

No objections, motion passes

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:20] 

           6. Request approval of latest V4.01 Committee Specification Drafts as Committee Specifications CS02 [8:40 am]

                       a. Summary of Non-Material Changes

                                    i.          https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx 

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:24]  Ericson, George: 

 I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66160/odata-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange). 

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:26] 

Note: table of contents is not up-to-date for Protocol, Ralf to point this out in the publication request

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:43] 

New zip file: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66185/odata-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05a.zip

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:45] 

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:45]  Mike Pizzo: 

Found very minor issue with the previous package. Existing motion fails for lack of a second and will be replaced with a new motion with the updated text.

(date of abnf and abnf testcases)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:47]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66185/odata-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05a.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:47]  Ericson, George: 

Second

 

No objections, motion passes[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:49]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData JSON Format Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66159/odata-json-format-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:49]  Ericson, George: 

Second

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:49] 

No objections, motion passes

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:50]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) JSON Representation Version 4.01 Working Draft 07 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66157/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:50]  Ericson, George: 

Second

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:51] 

No objections, motion passes

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 17:51]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66158/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:02]  Mike Pizzo: 

discovered outdated header information on .xsd files. Ralf is uploading fixed versions.

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:02] 

New zip: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66187/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05a.zip

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:02]  Hubert Heijkers: 

I'll withdraw my motion

I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66187/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05a.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66186/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:03]  Ericson, George: 

Second

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:05] 

No objections, motion passes

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:11] 

           8. Next meetings [9:50 am]

                       a.         Thursday November 14, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

                       b.         Thursday November 21, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

                       c.         Thursday November 28, 2019 No meeting, Thanksgiving in the USA

                       d.         Thursday December 05, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:12] 

Mike and Mark and George can't attend next week

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:13] 

Will have meeting anyway

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:13] 

                       c. V4.02: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

                                   ii.          ODATA-1323 Clarify representation of GEO literals and streams in annotations (XML, JSON)

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:21]  Mike Pizzo: 

Current proposal is as compatible as possible. Clients are already told that they should not fail due to issues with annotations. For XML, the default representation of string is the most compatible and least likely to break. For JSON, there will be no preconceived notion of what to do with stream.

We should test with existing libraries to see what happens if a term is defined as type edm.stream.

and decide if services SHOULD NOT or MUST NOT return terms of type edm.stream.

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:22] 

Ralf to check with Evan how his parser would react to annotations for terms/properties of type Edm.Stream or Edm.Geo*

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:23] 

Ralf to check edm.xsd and csdl.schema.json whether there are any restrictions on term types

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:24] 

                       d. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

                                   i.          ODATA-1275 Describe structure of "JSON properties"

                                               1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/52/files 

                                               2. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-csdl-schemas/pull/9/files 

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:29] 

            9.  AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]             9.  AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:30] 

No other business

 

[‎07.‎11.‎2019 18:30] 

The meeting is adjourned

 

 

 

 

From: odata@lists.oasis-open.org <odata@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of Handl, Ralf
Sent: Dienstag, 5. November 2019 09:55
To: odata@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [CAUTION] [odata] Agenda for OData TC meeting on 2019-11-07

 

Here [1] is a draft agenda for the OData TC (Technical Committee) meeting scheduled on Thursday November 07, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET). For additional information, such as dial-in details and chat room, refer to [2]. For TC timeline, see [3]. Feel free to suggest additions or modifications.

Thanks.

 

[1] Agenda

     1. Roll call [8:00 am]

          a. Self-registration link: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/event.php?event_id=48011

 

     2. Approve agenda [8:05 am]

 

     3. Approve minutes from previous meeting(s)

          a. Minutes from October 31, 2019 TC meeting: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66143/Minutes%20of%202019-10-31%20Meeting%20%23273.docx

 

     4. Review action items [Action item list: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odata/members/action_items.php?sort_field=due_closed_date] [8:15 am]

          a. Upcoming

              i.   #0039 Concept for Compact JSON data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-01-31

              ii.  #0037 Concept for binary data format – Hubert Heijkers – 2020-03-26

              iii.  #0036 Register the OData- headers and preferences with IANA – Mark Biamonte – 2018-07-26

 

    5. Issues [8:20 am]

         a. APPLIED – already reviewed last week

              i.   ODATA-1337 Clarify use of @Core.ContentId in delta update

 

         b. V4.01: NEW or OPEN

              i.   ODATA-1339 Make examples 8 (entity type) and 86 (record _expression_) consistent

 

    6. Request approval of latest V4.01 Committee Specification Drafts as Committee Specifications CS02 [8:40 am]

         a. Summary of Non-Material Changes

              i.   https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx

 

         b. Sample Motions

              i.   I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66160/odata-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

              ii.  I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData JSON Format Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66159/odata-json-format-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

              i.   I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) JSON Representation Version 4.01 Working Draft 07 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66157/odata-csdl-json-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

              i.   I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve OData Common Schema Definition Language (CSDL) XML Representation Version 4.01 Working Draft 08 contained in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66158/odata-csdl-xml-v4.01-cs02-2019-11-05.zip as a Committee Specification 02. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/66161/odata-v4.01-csd06-non-material-changes.docx and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2018-05-22#dNonmaterialChange).

 

    7. More Issues [9:40 am]

         c. V4.02: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

              ii.  ODATA-1323 Clarify representation of GEO literals and streams in annotations (XML, JSON)

 

         d. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN with concrete proposal

              i.   ODATA-1275 Describe structure of "JSON properties"

                  1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/52/files

                  2. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-csdl-schemas/pull/9/files

 

         e. Vocabularies: NEW or OPEN that need more discussion

              i.   ODATA-1336 Querying “JSON properties”

              ii.  ODATA-1326 Enhance syntax of term Validation.OpenPropertyTypeConstraint

                  1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/59/files

              iii.  ODATA-1300 Capabilities: clarify CountRestrictions and ExpandRestrictions

                  1. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odata-vocabularies/pull/50/files

              iv. ODATA-1253 Abstract type definition Core.Number as a super-type of all numeric types

              v.  ODATA-1214 Annotate constructor actions

              vi. ODATA-1140 Add details to HttpResponse

              vii. ODATA-1107 Introduce instance annotation to specify which types an instance "implements"

              viii.     ODATA-1060 Improve specification of element response requirements

              ix. ODATA-884 Allow describing possible responses to requests for a particular resource (public comment c201510e00019)

 

          f. Data Aggregation: NEW or OPEN

              i.   ODATA-1332 Support augmenting entities with aggregated values from related entities

              ii.  ODATA-1218 Enhance hierarchy processing

              iii.  ODATA-945 Correct examples 53 and 54 

 

    8. Next meetings [9:50 am]

         a.  Thursday November 14, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

         b.  Thursday November 21, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

         c.  Thursday November 28, 2019 No meeting, Thanksgiving in the USA

         d.  Thursday December 05, 2019 during 8-10 am PST (17:00-19:00 CET)

 

     9.  AOB and wrap up [9:55 am]

 

[2] References

 

[3] Timeline

 



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