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Subject: RE: [odf-adoption] RE: need confirmation on ODF Camp
Hi Louis and Dieter, I think these are both great ideas but slightly different, which is good. Louis, I think your camp concept is terrific and can easily be coordinated through the Adoption TC with you as a lead. Since there will be no presentations, it seems to me that as long as you secure the space, you will be set. OASIS can promote the 'ODF Camp' in the same manner we always do (posting to event page, OASIS News, etc.) So, as soon as you have a written description inviting participants, we can move forward with various postings. Dieter, I think your concept will take longer to execute properly, so we might think about late in 2007 or 2008. During the last Adoption call we tossed around the idea of a stand alone ODF event (one or two days), that can either co-locate with another conference or act as a stand alone that could possibly be hosted at a member facility in various locations. Once you put this type of effort together it is easy to duplicate in different locations. I would like each member to consider hosting such an event and/or suggest an event/conference that would an appropriate venue for 'ODF Day(s).' I think an Asian venue would be interesting, any thoughts? I would like to see how much interest we have for this before we commit a lot of cycles. I think it is a great idea, and ODF is gaining tremendous speed but I will need the support of the Adoption TC. Thanks so much! Dee -----Original Message----- From: Dieter.Loeschky@Sun.COM [mailto:Dieter.Loeschky@Sun.COM] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:21 AM To: Louis Suarez-Potts Cc: Dee Schur; odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org; John McCreesh; Jane Harnad Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] RE: need confirmation on ODF Camp Hi, I would love to see technical presentations (e.g. reports from the Metadata SC, Formula SC, ...) as well as status presentations (e.g. ODF roadmap, ODF adoption, ...). Furthermore we should have workshops on ODF interoperability in ODF enabled applications (OOo, KOffice, ...) and ODF processing (server and client side). Taking the ODF Toolkit project into account, I hope that we can attract additional audience outside the classic OOo public. Regards, Dieter -- Sun Microsystems GmbH Dieter Loeschky Nagelsweg 55 Senior Manager Software Engineering 20097 Hamburg StarOffice / OpenOffice.org Development Germany Phone: +49(0)40 236 46 500 http://www.sun.com Dieter.Loeschky@sun.com Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Marcel Schneider, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb: > Hi > On 2007-05-29, at 21:12 , Dee Schur wrote: > >> Hi Louis, >> We did discuss your email on the ODF Adoption call this morning and I was >> hoping that you would have joined the call. >> It was mentioned that it may be difficult to keep attendees with split >> session (19 and 21 of September) on ODF. I'm not certain that this is a >> problem. > > Depends. > > >> In terms of the ODF camp, how many competing tracks will occur >> simultaneously? Is this a speaker/presentation format? If so, how many >> speakers? Or is it an interactive learning event with tutorials and >> clinics? >> Is this a plug-fest? Who will select the presenters, are you on the >> programme committee? > > Camp: it's a workshop. No presentations except impromptu ones. Rather, > work on code. > > >> If we do a showcase/demo, I would like to approach the participating >> vendors >> about sponsorship after I understand the openoffice.org conference >> funding >> model. > > > Model: We ask for donations. See > http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2007/sponsorship.html > > >> But OOoCon may not be in favor of vendors demoing their products? > > Indeed, we are not. We are in favour of vendors speaking about > experience about their experience with their products, esp. if they > concern OOo--are derived from it or in some way relate to it. Example > could be, KOffice speaking about heterogeneous environment, KOffice/OOo, > say. > > >> A >> traditional OASIS InterOp would require a scenario that solves a business >> problem and solution, they are non-promotional in nature but members >> report >> that the InterOps drive business to their company. Of course, open-source >> participation would also be encouraged. I also wanted to pursue the >> InterOp >> because we are trying to increase membership in the Adoption TC and the >> possibility of participating in this event would encourage these >> potential >> new members to join the Adoption TC. > > OOo and ODF are not quite like regular OASIS formats, I think. > > The point of the camp is actually to improve interoperability among the > ODF implementations. But the presentations, given at OOoCon, must really > relate to OOo, as well as ODF. > > >> Do we have any idea of number and type of attendees? It is my >> understanding >> that this event is heavily attended by public sector folks or is it >> mostly >> developers? > > Both. In years past, numbers have trended up from 300-350. I think this > year it will be more popular. > >> I have many more questions, maybe we should plan another call since it >> sounds like you are under the gun. > > Quite. :-) > > But I'm in Moscow for the next couple of days, then back to London. I > can manage one via Skype or equiv., but I want to hear from Dieter, too. > >> Thanks! >> Dee > > best > louis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Louis Suarez-Potts [mailto:luispo@mac.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:28 PM >> To: odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org >> Cc: John McCreesh; Dee Schur; Dieter Loeschky >> Subject: need confirmation on ODF Camp >> >> Hi >> A couple of days ago I sent a note to this list, cc'ing Dee Schur and >> several others. [0]. >> >> No response so far. That's unfortunate. We need to decide on the >> logistics of the event, and soon. >> >> Here is the idea: >> >> Wednesday have a 1/2 or even full day "camp" that would work on >> "normalizing" interoperability among ODF implementations. >> >> Options: >> >> ** It could run in parallel to the regular scheduled talks, as a stream. >> >> Or, >> >> ** it would be one of the streams >> >> The latter option would necessary crowd out other papers. >> >> >> Opinions? >> >> My own preference would be to have a parallel track. >> >> >> Please respond as soon as you can. >> >> best >> Louis >> >> >> >> >
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