Re: [odf-adoption] ODF Adoption TC Call - 17 July 2007 - Agenda

["Charles-H. Schulz" <charles-h.schulz@arsaperta.com>]

Hello Thomas,

actually I was advocating not using this test suite at all and designing
a new one. This is not because it would give out the impression that OOo
has a less refined implementation of ODF than KOffice.
MS does report about that everywhere and can twist the
results'interpretation the way it wants. But we may want to have a test
suite development project that  is actually sustainable.

Hope this helps,

Charles.


Thomas Zander a écrit :
> On Sunday 15 July 2007 15:14:36 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>   
>> I should point out that the test suite is by no means a complete tool
>> and that development efforts have stopped a while ago on this project.
>>     
>
> Naturally, nobody was saying otherwise :)
> I have to ask, Is that a reason to not use the results already obtained in 
> the test suite?  The spec is still the same as when the tests were 
> written.
>
>   
>> Let's pay attention to the documents and the results we are going to
>> get with this...
>>     
>
> There are quite a lot of places where the testsuite points out problems in 
> loading of a example document; I found a really funny one where 
> openoffice reads the following line;
>  <style:paragraph-properties fo:line-height="2000"/>
> as being 0.79 inch.
>
> I have no idea how it reasons that 2000 equals that value; other 
> implementations say that 2000 is in postscript points and a huge value 
> (some 705 mm).  Using different units has different effects.
> When I create a document that loads so majorly different in two 
> applications, I think that is a good interoperability bug for this 
> conference. Anyone agree?
>
> These little problems are thus really easy to find and solve by going 
> through the testsuite and finding the problems and fixing them in the 
> office applications.
>
> Can you guys give me a good reason why for this conference we should 
> invent new test-documents instead of reusing the ones already created?
>
> Bottom line is; I naturally don't object to creating new test documents at 
> all. I just want to see OOo actually fix bugs. After all; the testsuite 
> has been there for over a year and we found only 1 bug that has been 
> fixed in OOo's ODF-loading code in that time.
> If this is due to problems with the testsuite; lets tackle *that* problem 
> instead of duplicating the effort.
>   


-- 
Charles-H. Schulz,
Associé / Associate
Ars Aperta.