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Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] proposed ODF Camp schedule

accepted all.

On 2007-08-01, at 15:54 , robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:

> A few suggestions:
> 1)  You have us sending out, "2 PDF files illustrating sample  
> documents."  Maybe we just want to say "a few" PDF files without  
> committing to how many there will be.  It may be more than 2, for  
> example.
> 2) I'm thinking it may be good to have someone on the accessibility  
> side of ODF attend, to verify that these documents work well with a  
> screen reader.  This is interoperability as well, with a particular  
> application that is a reader instead of an editor.  The feedback we  
> get from this exercise would benefit the editors.
> 3) Not needed for the web site, but we probably want to assigned  
> leaders/moderators for each of the sessions.  I'm willing to do any  
> or all of the sessions (except the keynote) .
> -Rob
> Louis Suarez-Potts <Louis.Suarez-Potts@Sun.COM>
> Sent by: Louis.Suarez-Potts@Sun.COM
> 08/01/2007 03:36 PM
> To
> odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org
> cc
> Subject
> [odf-adoption] proposed ODF Camp schedule
> Hello all,
> Please review the below. I've doubled the focus of the event--actual
> interoperability issues and future guidelines.
> Note, because we are presuming that vendors will be doing homework in
> advance of the camp, we will have to ask the would-be participants to
> indicate their intentions at least two weeks prior to the camp. No
> laggards allowed, though newbies, yes, provided they come to the
> sessions prepared.
> <proposal>
> Proposed schedule for ODF Camp.
> This inaugural ODF Camp will focus on interoperability among ODF
> implementations. The "ODF" refers of course to the OpenDocument
> Format, and the matters at hand, resolving differences among
> implementations and establishing guidelines for future
> interoperability, is vital to the format's continuing success.  We
> anticipate that this camp will be but the first in a series.  There
> will also not be nearly enough time to do what we would want, and so
> we will start before the actual camp commences.
> *Three weeks prior to the camp we will send out (or otherwise make
> available for downloading) 2 PDF files illustrating sample documents.
> Upon receipt, each participant would attempt to replicate that
> document to the best of their application's abilities. They would
> then save the document in ODF format. They would have two weeks in
> which to do this.
> An example document might be to replicate the first page of this PDF:
> https://www.socialsecurity.be/foreign/en/employer_limosa/infos/
> documents/pdf/act_mb_28122006.pdf .
> * Depending on the complexity of the document and the time allowed,
> we will send out several documents, each highlighting a different
> issue. We would provide annotation explicating some likely overlooked
> points the vendors should attend to.
> * A week before the camp, vendors would send in their ODF files for
> further redistribution to the others. [Suggestions on the technology
> to be used?]  All vendors will therefore have the time prior to the
> camp to review the differences in ODF implementation among the
> various vendors. The camp itself will then focus on identifying, in
> detail, the problems and, if possible, resolving them.
> Below is the schedule of the day.  Prior to the actual camp we will
> send out PDF files
> * Keynote: Stating the problem of interoperability for users [I have
> it now at 45 minutes but given the nature of this event, shortening
> it to 30 plus qs. seems  reasonable.]
> Morning sessions:
> We have set aside two morning and two afternoon sessions, but we want
> the structure to be fluid and accommodating to the needs at hand.
> Nevertheless, the morning sessions will focus on demonstrating and
> identifying implementation differences.  We envision that vendors
> would demonstrate the idiosyncrasies of their implementation,
> explaining the issues encountered in the files creation. In this
> manner we could work through the array of files, noting new problems
> in detail per implementation.
> Lunch
> Afternoon sessions
> These sessions are meant for coding fixes, if possible, and for
> demonstrating solutions.  The wrap-up session at the end will give us
> the occasion to discuss our next steps, as well as the feasibility of
> establishing guidelines for future implementation interoperability.
> </proposal>
> If this is okay, let's finalize it (remove brackets, etc.) and
> publish it on OOo site, as well as on the ODF site.
> best
> louis

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