RE: [odf-adoption] Re: [odf-camp] Re: ODF Interoperability Camp Follow-up

[robert_weir@us.ibm.com]

Good question.   My understanding
is that official OASIS Interop Demo's, per policy, require OASIS membership
to participate, with the exception of "Scenario Partners" which
are typically government or non-profit participants. so I think when we
do something like that we would just do the planning in the Adoption TC
using the existing mailing list.

As you know, the workshop we had in
Barcelona was not in the form of an official OASIS Interop Demo, and I
think we've struggled before to categorize it.

What we did in Barcelona involved ODF
implementors, both OASIS members and non-members.  It also involved
the participation of one government adopter of ODF. We also had one OASIS
staff, and one OASIS Director in attendance.  The event was mainly
participatory/discussion oriented rather than demo oriented.  In other
words, there were few passive observers.

If I had to call it anything I'd call
it a "plug fest" or "bake-off".  If you have access
to the ACM digital library, this is a good overview:  http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=338183.338184

In essence, what we are doing is trying
to improve adoption of ODF by helping bring together vendors that support
ODF in discussions and workshops where they can compare notes, share test
cases, and improve interoperability.

Is there a better way to organize this?
 I suppose doing it entirely within the Adoption TC, with only OASIS
members.  But I know that there was some concern that this would shut
out some of the smaller, open source implementors of ODF.  

-Rob
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"Carol Geyer" <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>

11/01/2007 11:53 AM

To	<robert_weir@us.ibm.com>, <odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org>
cc
Subject	RE: [odf-adoption] Re: [odf-camp] Re: ODF Interoperability Camp Follow-up

Is the goal to discuss implementation issues with
the entire community or to
plan a specific Interoperability demonstration event (or series of events)
with
a group of participants? 

-----Original Message-----
From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:14 AM
To: odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [odf-adoption] Re: [odf-camp] Re: ODF Interoperability Camp Follow-up


Peter is correct..  We were looking for something public, as allowed
by OASIS
Mailing List Guidelines and Policies
(http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php
<http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php>
) 

There is explicitly defined an allowance for: "-dev lists to encourage
open
dialogue on implementing an OASIS Standard or specification; " 

When I think of an interop mailing list I think of it as being a focused
version of a "-dev" mailing list. 

Can we get that set up? 


-Rob 




"Peter Vandenabeele" <peter@vandenabeele.com> 
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11/01/2007 09:49 AM 
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On Oct 2, 2007 3:21 PM,  <donald_harbison@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> We had a very small attendance today for the ODF Adoption TC. Just
myself,
> Alan Clark (Novell), Charles Schulz, and Louis Suarez-Potts. We did
discuss
> the need to sponsor a 'home base' for the ODF Interop topic. I like
your
> suggestion below re. using OASIS mail list. I'll request that we establish
> an 'odf-interop' mail list to carry on discussions and in order to
reach
> beyond the paying membership of OASIS to increase participation.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am not sure that this request is served as intended by the 2 new OASIS
mailing lists that state:

[public reference on http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/odf-adoption/
<http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/odf-adoption/>
is not yet visible,
so I quote here]

Dee Schur wrote on Nov 1, 2007
> Two lists have been created for the ODF InterOp Demonstration discussion
-
these lists
> are to be used by the ODF Adoption Interoperability Demonstration
marketing/PR
> subscribers. I will moderate the lists, so that new subscription requests
will come to me.
> These lists are for OASIS members-only.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

HTH,

Peter