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Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] Minutes: ODF Adoption TC Call 05 May 2009


Hi Charles,

in fact we're having it.

Best regards,
Peter

Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Aren't we supposed to have our call now?
> 
> Best,
> Charles.
> 
> 
> Le Tue, 19 May 2009 10:01:22 -0400,
> Louis Suarez-Potts <Louis.Suarez-Potts@Sun.COM> a écrit :
> 
>> Dear TC Members:
>>
>> Please find the draft minutes of our 5 May 2009 TC meeting below.
>>
>> Proposed Agenda
>> ===============
>>
>> 1.) Logistics
>> - Roll call
>>
>> Name
>> Company
>> Status
>> Peter Junge
>> Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Co.,...
>> Group Member
>> Bart Hanssens
>> Fedict
>> Group Member
>> Donald Harbison
>> IBM
>> Group Member
>> Robert Weir
>> IBM
>> Group Member
>> Alan Clark
>> Novell*
>> Group Member
>> Marino Marcich
>> OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODFA)
>> Group Member
>> Michael Brauer
>> Sun Microsystems
>> Group Member
>>
>> - Determination of quorum status
>> Meeting Statistics Quorum rule 51% of voting members Achieved quorum
>> true Counts toward voter eligibility true Individual Attendance
>> Members: 7 of 35 (20%)
>> Voting Members: 6 of 8 (75%) (used for quorum calculation)
>> Company Attendance Companies: 6 of 19 (31%)
>> Voting Companies: 5 of 6 (83%)
>> - Approval of minutes from April 7, 2009 TC meeting
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odf-adoption/email/archives/200904/msg00005.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The minutes were approved.
>>
>> - Acceptance of today's agenda
>>
>> 2.) Review, TC Action Item plan:
>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/odf-adoption/OdfAdoptionTcActionItems - All
>> The TC discussed the event plan at length with a focus on the
>> Government 2.0 Summit (O'Reilly Conference), the upcoming
>> interoperability event at The Hague (June 15 - 16), and the
>> OpenOffice.org Conference in early November (Orvieto, Italy).
>>
>> The TC agreed to plan another ODF plug-fest, or 'camp' for the
>> OpenOffice.org Conference. Don to the action item to 'put the stake
>> in the ground' with the conference organizers via the new discussion
>> list at OpenOffice.org. Bart agreed to promote this at the OIC TC
>> list as well, once it has taken shape.
>>
>> The TC agreed to review and update the ODF Adoption wiki with a
>> current list of ODF implementations. Rob can reference this in his
>> State of ODF Interoperability Report being drafted for the ODF
>> Interoperability and Conformance TC.
>>
>> Bart informed the TC of an upcoming Microsoft Document
>> Interoperability Initiative event, scheduled for London on May 18th.
>> Bart will attend.
>>
>> Bart is creating a rough draft of a Digital Signature profile as part
>> of his efforts at the OIC TC.
>>
>> Bart is speaking in Zagreb where he'll be be presenting an ODF key
>> note at the DORS/CLUC 2009 event (www.open.hr).
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Marino adoption plan: that requests come from Carol G. and not
>> just from ODF Alliance.
>>
>> Update: two weeks time
>>
>> --
>> Draft ODF is a web standards; w3c interest group 12 May but they
>> ignore issueof docs and do not consider formats as a web standard;
>> ignore standard and do not reference XML or doc formats. oppose
>> proprietary formats etc but nothing specific. the w3c report to be
>> issued will have no impact then on doc web standards.
>> - Marino: take a look at the working draft but it does not see it as
>> relevant.
>> - rob they have shown little interest in ODF
>> - there is no reference to odf or other doc formats, besides
>> anti-proprietary
>> - Rob: w3c do not do things absent ref implementation... ask what do
>> you want to do: odf in a browser? then get firefox to do it; nothing
>> will happen unless there is an implementation.
>> -marino: initial report in 12 May but they may extend the mandate, as
>> they are interested in expanding it and there is still time to engage
>> them in this.
>> - rob: could push the odf packaging model--file with manifest, etc.:
>> killer thing for web as well, to lay out browser specs. They have not
>> solved this problem in w3c. Post 1.2, the packaging model will be
>> split.
>>
>> look at this later.
>>
>>
>> 3.) ODF Interoperability Event at The Hague - Bart Hanssens
>>
>> 4.) Government 2.0 Summit - Don
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.) OpenOffice.org Conference - Louis
>>
>> no update but time to investigate and drive :-)
>>
>> Peter: they are contacting prior organizers (peter, jesus, et al.) and
>> interested to know what the odf adoption can do this year; and want a
>> larger odf event this year than prior. They want an adoption event in
>> Orvieto.
>> Louis: they must work publicly and on the lists. The TC can help but
>> we need for them to work with us more publicly.
>> Peter: looking for sponsors.....
>>
>>
>>
>> 6.) ODF News / Round Table  -- All
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Junge: RedOffice will bridge ODF and UOF. It currently defaults
>> to read/write ODF V1.1.
>>
>> --cannot say too much about it; there is an english versin of spec but
>> it is not too good... colleagues working oin it; nothing new at the
>> moment.
>>
>> -- RedOffice is shipping 4.5 is soon to be released.. .supporting ODF
>> 1.1
>>
>> --
>> Marino: nothing
>> Alan: nothing to add
>> Rob: quick update on ODF TC: approved 0.2 of draft 1.2 and put it out
>> for review; community drafts issued 3/4 weeks. Next week meeting in
>> Brussels in idabc on Nature of Administrative Documents, and several
>> of us have been invited to this--additional requirements for ODF
>> -press on this not until public review
>> -  technical estimate of when review: Not before July for public
>> review. Marino that means that we have papers, press material by end
>> of June. Issue is that we want to get this done before vacation
>> season. Michael Bauer: when would this be done for public review?
>> Opinion? we separate public review from formula (formal?) part as
>> that latter needs more work; and July seems likely too for public
>> review. But it depends on how many public comments we receive. The
>> two large blocs are editorial notes in spec and public
>> comments--received in March 170 alone. Time depends then on the
>> number of comments received in the next few weeks.
>>
>> Marino but given info we can still draft white papers for end of June.
>> MB: from technical perspective, the spec is complete--so we know the
>> tech details, like new features, etc. Specis complete but what is not
>> is the editorial element--the annotation--not the actual
>> determination of the functionality.
>> MB: last draft is not quite available but will be shortly, as
>> requirement of Oasis is that there have to be various publishable
>> versions. Will be available sometime this week.
>>
>> --RT: michael bauer: nothing besides the above
>> -- louis: importance of w3c,gov't needing good arguments for migrating
>> to odf
>>
>>
>>
>> Marino: Drafting an ODF V1.2 brochure; will circulate this to the TC.
>>
>> The meeting was adjourned.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
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