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Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] Minutes: ODF Adoption TC Call 05 May 2009


For some reason I always end up in a void confcall.

Charles.


Le Tue, 19 May 2009 22:35:24 +0800,
Peter Junge <peterjunge@RedOffice.com> a écrit :

> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> in fact we're having it.
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter
> 
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > Aren't we supposed to have our call now?
> > 
> > Best,
> > Charles.
> > 
> > 
> > Le Tue, 19 May 2009 10:01:22 -0400,
> > Louis Suarez-Potts <Louis.Suarez-Potts@Sun.COM> a écrit :
> > 
> >> Dear TC Members:
> >>
> >> Please find the draft minutes of our 5 May 2009 TC meeting below.
> >>
> >> Proposed Agenda
> >> ===============
> >>
> >> 1.) Logistics
> >> - Roll call
> >>
> >> Name
> >> Company
> >> Status
> >> Peter Junge
> >> Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Co.,...
> >> Group Member
> >> Bart Hanssens
> >> Fedict
> >> Group Member
> >> Donald Harbison
> >> IBM
> >> Group Member
> >> Robert Weir
> >> IBM
> >> Group Member
> >> Alan Clark
> >> Novell*
> >> Group Member
> >> Marino Marcich
> >> OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODFA)
> >> Group Member
> >> Michael Brauer
> >> Sun Microsystems
> >> Group Member
> >>
> >> - Determination of quorum status
> >> Meeting Statistics Quorum rule 51% of voting members Achieved
> >> quorum true Counts toward voter eligibility true Individual
> >> Attendance Members: 7 of 35 (20%)
> >> Voting Members: 6 of 8 (75%) (used for quorum calculation)
> >> Company Attendance Companies: 6 of 19 (31%)
> >> Voting Companies: 5 of 6 (83%)
> >> - Approval of minutes from April 7, 2009 TC meeting
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/odf-adoption/email/archives/200904/msg00005.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The minutes were approved.
> >>
> >> - Acceptance of today's agenda
> >>
> >> 2.) Review, TC Action Item plan:
> >> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/odf-adoption/OdfAdoptionTcActionItems -
> >> All The TC discussed the event plan at length with a focus on the
> >> Government 2.0 Summit (O'Reilly Conference), the upcoming
> >> interoperability event at The Hague (June 15 - 16), and the
> >> OpenOffice.org Conference in early November (Orvieto, Italy).
> >>
> >> The TC agreed to plan another ODF plug-fest, or 'camp' for the
> >> OpenOffice.org Conference. Don to the action item to 'put the stake
> >> in the ground' with the conference organizers via the new
> >> discussion list at OpenOffice.org. Bart agreed to promote this at
> >> the OIC TC list as well, once it has taken shape.
> >>
> >> The TC agreed to review and update the ODF Adoption wiki with a
> >> current list of ODF implementations. Rob can reference this in his
> >> State of ODF Interoperability Report being drafted for the ODF
> >> Interoperability and Conformance TC.
> >>
> >> Bart informed the TC of an upcoming Microsoft Document
> >> Interoperability Initiative event, scheduled for London on May
> >> 18th. Bart will attend.
> >>
> >> Bart is creating a rough draft of a Digital Signature profile as
> >> part of his efforts at the OIC TC.
> >>
> >> Bart is speaking in Zagreb where he'll be be presenting an ODF key
> >> note at the DORS/CLUC 2009 event (www.open.hr).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Marino adoption plan: that requests come from Carol G. and not
> >> just from ODF Alliance.
> >>
> >> Update: two weeks time
> >>
> >> --
> >> Draft ODF is a web standards; w3c interest group 12 May but they
> >> ignore issueof docs and do not consider formats as a web standard;
> >> ignore standard and do not reference XML or doc formats. oppose
> >> proprietary formats etc but nothing specific. the w3c report to be
> >> issued will have no impact then on doc web standards.
> >> - Marino: take a look at the working draft but it does not see it
> >> as relevant.
> >> - rob they have shown little interest in ODF
> >> - there is no reference to odf or other doc formats, besides
> >> anti-proprietary
> >> - Rob: w3c do not do things absent ref implementation... ask what
> >> do you want to do: odf in a browser? then get firefox to do it;
> >> nothing will happen unless there is an implementation.
> >> -marino: initial report in 12 May but they may extend the mandate,
> >> as they are interested in expanding it and there is still time to
> >> engage them in this.
> >> - rob: could push the odf packaging model--file with manifest,
> >> etc.: killer thing for web as well, to lay out browser specs. They
> >> have not solved this problem in w3c. Post 1.2, the packaging model
> >> will be split.
> >>
> >> look at this later.
> >>
> >>
> >> 3.) ODF Interoperability Event at The Hague - Bart Hanssens
> >>
> >> 4.) Government 2.0 Summit - Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 5.) OpenOffice.org Conference - Louis
> >>
> >> no update but time to investigate and drive :-)
> >>
> >> Peter: they are contacting prior organizers (peter, jesus, et al.)
> >> and interested to know what the odf adoption can do this year; and
> >> want a larger odf event this year than prior. They want an
> >> adoption event in Orvieto.
> >> Louis: they must work publicly and on the lists. The TC can help
> >> but we need for them to work with us more publicly.
> >> Peter: looking for sponsors.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 6.) ODF News / Round Table  -- All
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Junge: RedOffice will bridge ODF and UOF. It currently
> >> defaults to read/write ODF V1.1.
> >>
> >> --cannot say too much about it; there is an english versin of spec
> >> but it is not too good... colleagues working oin it; nothing new
> >> at the moment.
> >>
> >> -- RedOffice is shipping 4.5 is soon to be released.. .supporting
> >> ODF 1.1
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marino: nothing
> >> Alan: nothing to add
> >> Rob: quick update on ODF TC: approved 0.2 of draft 1.2 and put it
> >> out for review; community drafts issued 3/4 weeks. Next week
> >> meeting in Brussels in idabc on Nature of Administrative
> >> Documents, and several of us have been invited to this--additional
> >> requirements for ODF -press on this not until public review
> >> -  technical estimate of when review: Not before July for public
> >> review. Marino that means that we have papers, press material by
> >> end of June. Issue is that we want to get this done before vacation
> >> season. Michael Bauer: when would this be done for public review?
> >> Opinion? we separate public review from formula (formal?) part as
> >> that latter needs more work; and July seems likely too for public
> >> review. But it depends on how many public comments we receive. The
> >> two large blocs are editorial notes in spec and public
> >> comments--received in March 170 alone. Time depends then on the
> >> number of comments received in the next few weeks.
> >>
> >> Marino but given info we can still draft white papers for end of
> >> June. MB: from technical perspective, the spec is complete--so we
> >> know the tech details, like new features, etc. Specis complete but
> >> what is not is the editorial element--the annotation--not the
> >> actual determination of the functionality.
> >> MB: last draft is not quite available but will be shortly, as
> >> requirement of Oasis is that there have to be various publishable
> >> versions. Will be available sometime this week.
> >>
> >> --RT: michael bauer: nothing besides the above
> >> -- louis: importance of w3c,gov't needing good arguments for
> >> migrating to odf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Marino: Drafting an ODF V1.2 brochure; will circulate this to the
> >> TC.
> >>
> >> The meeting was adjourned.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
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-- 
Charles-H. Schulz
Associé / Associate
Ars Aperta.


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