OASIS ODF Accessibility SC Meeting
Attendees
- Dave Pawson
- Steve Noble
- Hironobu Takagi
- Chieko Asakawa
- Tatsuya Ishihara
- Janina Sajka
- Pete Bournet
- Rich Schwerdtfeger - Acting chair
- Malte Timmerman
Apologies
- Peter Korn
- David Clark
- Nathaniel Borenstein
- Mike Paciello
- Jerry Berrier
Scribe(s): Dave Pawson
Agenda
Item. Roll Call
Item. Approval of Minutes of Previous (3/30) Meeting
Item.
Item.
1 Roll Call. Approval of previous minutes.
DISCUSSION: RS: Minutes of Apr 6, accepted.
2 PK proposal.
DISCUSSION: RS. Will create proposal based on outcome of this
meeting. CA posted proposal today, as discussion
document.
- RS. Areas (rect circ polygon). Could not find attributes for description. Need to add names to those elements.
- MA. OK.
- RS. Is svg:desc there for these objects? CA -
yes.
- RS. Any object with text, do we need draw:name as well?
- MT. DP. Need name on object, even if text inside.
- MT. name belongs to object.
- RS. Drawn text box. We might need a name for that? CA -
yes. draw:text has name att.
- CA. can text obj content be used as alt text? RS, not needed.
- RS. circ poly, text, rectangle. all have names. Is there an svg:desc on text box? yes
- RS. 3D shape, scene, cube, sphere. Add draw:name for
these, and svg:desc. Extrude, rotate do not need these
atts.
- RS. Inappropriately defined draw
names. draw:equation. In presentation, no. Only in custom
shape. Do we need text for it. CA, don't need draw:name as
accessible name.
- CA. Will work up an example.
- CA. Created equation. Name not needed for
draw:equation accessibility
- RS. draw:gradient, svg:lineargradient,
svg:radialgradient draw:hatch, draw:fill-image draw:marker
(DP, maybe) draw:stroke-dash. Do we need names? DP. Yes for
draw:dashed-line. Each to have optional description if name
provided. Marker does not need name. The element
<draw:marker> represents a marker, which is used to draw
polygons at the start and end points of strokes. Markers are
not available as automatic styles. The dash element
<draw:stroke-dash> represents a dash style that can be used
to render strokes of shapes. Stroke dashes are not available
as automatic styles. May be part of another shape. Name not
needed for accessibility. desc not needed.
- RS. For page elements. draw:name for draw:page. May
limit usage for alt text.
- CA. Just a discussion issue.
- RS. Used for forms, drawings, frames, animations,
notes. Just a container? CA - yes. E.g. a slide
page.
- HT. The element <draw:page> is a
container for content in a drawing or presentation document.
Drawing pages are used for the following:
- RS. already has name attribute. Is it auto generated?
Likely. Problem if manually used as slide number. What happens
when new one inserted.
- CA. What if not used by author, should they be
automatically created? UA could fill these. draw:name can be
described by human author.
- RS. draw name for draw page is only generated by
authoring tool and managed by authoring tool.
- MT. Default is page number, but can be changed.
- RS. UA sets to page number, can be overriden by author,
but not recommended. Reason is duplicate names could
result.
- HT. page has title property of page. draw name could be
used for this.
- RS. Names for invisible objects. draw:name should not
be used as alt text. Each element <draw:layer> is defined
and referenced by its name that is contained in the draw:name
attribute . Each drawing object inside a drawing or
presentation document can be assigned to a layer. Layers
virtually group the object. Each object that is assigned to a
layer inherits the settings of the layer.
- JS. presents a hierarchy making up a slide.
- RS. OK, have draw:name and svg:desc for accessibility.
- RS. draw:param. No accessibility use. Does not need
name or desc.
- RS. draw:line. Need name and desc.
- RS. 20, 21st May. MT? I think so. RS? Yes. CA? Will
try. Steve, not possible. Agreed by those present. RS put to
list.
- RS. Plan on UK face to face. Will write proposal to group.
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Date: 2006-04-06T15:16:47.0Z
Time: 1600Z
Venue: Telcon
Date: 2006-04-06T15:16:52.0Z
Version: 1