RE: [office-accessibility] OASIS ODF SC meeting minutes, 11Oct07

[Hironobu Takagi <TAKAGIH@jp.ibm.com>]

Thank you Mike. 

All, 
I meant "the end of Oct" as
the next week. I miscounted my calendar one day, sorry about that. 
We will give some feedback in the next
week's meeting. 

Thank you.
Hiro



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Hironobu Takagi, PhD.
User Experience and Accessibility Technology
Tokyo Research Laboratory, IBM Research
+81-46-215-4557
E-mail: takagih@jp.ibm.com

"Mike Paciello" <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com>

	To:	<Peter.Korn@Sun.COM>, <office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org>
	cc:
	Subject:	RE: [office-accessibility] OASIS ODF SC meeting minutes, 11Oct07
	From:	"Mike Paciello" <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com> - Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 22:50

Please respond to <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com>

Hiro & Chieko are in Boston. I met with them both
this morning. They are
headed back home to Tokyo tomorrow; neither will be available.

- Mike 


Mike Paciello
Cell: +1.603.566.7713

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter.Korn@Sun.COM [mailto:Peter.Korn@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:42 PM
To: office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [office-accessibility] OASIS ODF SC meeting minutes, 11Oct07

Greetings,

I just realized I never sent out the meetings of our last meeting 
(oops).  They are attached below.

We said that we would not meet until Hiro had completed his action item,
which he promised to do in the month of October.  Given that we haven't
heard from him, I suggest we NOT meet tomorrow. 


Regards,

Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

============================================================

Attendees
----------
Rich Schwerdtfeger
Peter Korn
Pete Brunet
Janina Sajka
Malte Timmermann
Steve Nobel
Dave Pawson


Agenda: September 6 ODF Accessibility SC Meeting
------------------------------------------------------

1. Assign scribe and role call
  -> done, Peter Korn

2. Approve September 27 Minutes. Janina to post.
  -> Approved

3. Review Open Action Items
  -> Done (see below)

4. Hiro's review progress of the ODF v1.2 Draft 6 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/25268/OpenD
ocument-v1.2-draft6.odt
  -> Skipping; no Hiro and his AI deadline hasn't passed yet

5. Animations - We should discuss animation accessibility soon in our SC
- perhaps at our next meeting.  Questions we should explore include
ways 
to tag the animation with ALT text descriptions, suggested UI for 
authors to do this, guidelines for when animations should be so tagged
(does every animation need a description?  is there a way to indicate
'non-informational/decorative animations' as such, so the user knows 
they exist and knows they needn't care about

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200709/msg00014.ht
ml 
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200709/msg00015.h
tml>

  -> Discussion led by Dave Pawson: under what circumstances does
a 
blind user want to know about "decorative" animations? 
  [CONCLUSION]

  -> Interstitial animations (between slide switching) is fine
as is
  -> Objects on a slide that are animations are fine, so long as
you can 
have ALT text on them & TAB to them
  -> Objects on a master slide that are animations are fine, again
so 
long as you can have ALT text on them & TAB to them

Previous Open Action Items
----------------------------

1. Peter Korn to post final ODF 1.1 Accessibility Guidelines
  -> Almost there...

2. Dave Pawson: look at HTML example on slide #3 of Hiro, to see how we
can encode the "San Jose" stuff in ODF (see Hiro's e-mail
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/group_public/email/office-accessibility/20070
8/msg00005.html 
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/group_public/email/office-accessibility/2007
08/msg00005.html> 
)

  -> AI is done.  See:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200708/msg00008.ht
ml


3. Rich: I will ask when 1.2 is coming out and how many more drafts we
might expect. i.e. When we should do our review.
action rich -- to contact Robert Weir

  -> No clear & final answer; more reviews to come, but not
a lot of 
changes expected. 
  -> Rich: doesn't see a lot of new work in these drafts for us
to review
  -> Peter: feels an analysis of the metadata proposal being worth
a review
 

4. Action Hiro: End of October is good.
  -> [action was actually for Hiro to do a review of draft #6 of
the ODF 
v1.2 spec.; answer was "End of Oct. is good"]


5. (From August 23 meeting) - Group Actions

                    
 # Modify next version of accessibility guidelines
                    
   to ensure applications respond to system font
                    
   and color settings.
                    
 # Add wording to the next revision of the
                    
   accessibility guidelines to allow control of the
                    
   animation rate of
                    
   images in a presentation
                    
 # Modify accessibility guidelines to state how
                    
   common field attributes (section 6.7 of the ODF
                    
   1.2 spec.) should be supplied to the AT. The
                    
   field attributes would
                    
   indicate whether something were a boolean,
                    
   gregorian date, etc.

   -> Skipping these; waiting on the review action (#5)

6. (From August 23 meeting) - Janina to create new wording for reload 
delay (section 3.13.2) which would allow user agents to control the 
reload delay and to state the
WCAG requirements for content refreshing to prevent seizures. We need 
wording to provide control over flashing Here are some related links

                    
 #
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#general-thresholddef
 
<http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#general-thresholddef>

                    
 #
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20060427/#seizure-does-not
-violate
 
<http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20060427/#seizure-does-no
t-violate>

   -> Janina will have this done by next week

7. (From August 23 meeting) - Pete Brunet review review section 4.6 of
the ODF 1.2 specification and see how an application should supply 
tracking change information to an AT. Write proposal on how this should
be addressed in the accessibility guidelines
  -> Pete Brunet: Belief is that
  -> Active discussion in exposing this via accessibility APIs
(in the 
IAccessible2 mailing list); no consensus yet on how to do this - more 
study needed
  -> Malte: OOo is not exposing changes information via attributes


New Action Items
------------------
1. Consider a formal comparison to OOXML on a11y in ~6 mos. from now

Next meeting will be when Hiro is ready; that might be next week, might
be after that.


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