OASIS ODF a11y SC meeting, tomorrow, Thursday 14Feb08,8am PT / 10am CST/ 11am ET / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET

[Peter Korn <Peter.Korn@Sun.COM>]

Greetings,

As noted at our last meeting on January 17th, we are allocating an 
extended 90 minutes to our meeting this week to accommodate our special 
guest Marc Mulcahy (Marc - did Janina manage to invite you like she was 
supposed to?).

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Suggested agenda:

1) Approve minutes for last ODF Accessibility SC Meeting - attached

2) Special guest Marc Mulcahy, whose ICON PDA may be in the future 
natively support reading/writing ODF and wanted to meet with us about it.

3) Review of action items from last week:

* Hiro to provide more information on agenda item 5 related to table 
headers (from 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00007.html) 


* Rich to find deadlines for ODF 1.2; also to verify whether TC would 
like to see our 1.2 guidelines doc delivered at same time (in same 
"bundle") as 1.2 spec.

* Hiro - Write proposed modification to 8.1.1 to add caption-id for 
table, and 9.2.15.2 to include tables - <ref 
name="common-draw-caption-id-attlist"/>

* Janina to check with Dave Pawson on status of ODF to DAISY work he was 
involved in

* Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to supply tracking change 
information to ATs.

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• From: Peter Korn <Peter.Korn@Sun.COM>
• To: office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org
• Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:16:43 -0800

Greetings,

Attached please find the minutes from our meeting earlier this week, 
Thursday January 17th. Please note that due to the travel schedules of 
your two co-chairs, our next meeting with be on Thursday February 14th. 
We plan to make that a 90 minute meeting, and may have a special invited 
guest join us to talk about ODF support in his accessible PDA.


Regards,

Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

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Attendees
-----------
Rich
Janina
Cheiko
Peter
Hiro
Pete B.

Topics discussed
------------------

1. Assign scribe and role call
* Done [Peter]

2. Approve November 1 Minutes: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00007.html
* Done

3. Vote to submit ODF Accessibility Guidelines 1.1 to the public ODF TC 
web site. 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/download.php/25664/ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines_v1.0-candidate.odt
* Approved by acclamation

4. Discussion on Rich's proposal to ODF TC to include <svg:title> and 
<svg:descriptions> to pages: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00014.html
* Tentative approval given late last year by SC chairs has been approved 
by SC.
* AI for SC for next set of guidelines: to modify the guidelines 
document to note the proper use of this new attribute in ODF v1.2

5. Review Open Action Items
a. ODF Accessibility Guidelines for ODF 1.2
- See full list of ODF 1.2 guidelines action items below
- Should we provide any direction on animations?
b. ODF 1.2 Draft 6 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/25268/OpenDocument-v1.2-draft6.odt 
- requirements to the TC
- Need an updated spec from the TC.
- From Hiro's review:
* Do we need a table caption reference? <table:table 
text:caption-id="table1caption" table:name="Table1" 
table:style-name="Table1">
- For autotable generation and table headers: What text do we need to 
for table headers in the spec? Currently we can put a table header in. 
(see "Topic 6" in 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00007.html)
* Hiro to provide draft text for next guidelines doc. to tell developers 
how to utilize and populate table header tags with database content [due 
next meeting, Feb 14]

6. E-mails to folks saying that their OASIS membership was expiring 
(Janina in particular)
* Rich had spoken with Robert Weir about this a month or so ago; Rich 
will double-check
* Janina to double check whether things have actually expired

7. Marc Mulcahy would like to make his ICON PDA to natively read/write 
ODF, would like to do that sometime this year, but Marc reportedly 
thinks something is missing that is important for Braille
* Janina to invite Marc to the Feb 14th meeting & to get info from Marc 
on those issues...

8. Janina to check in with Dave Pawson on status of ODF to DAISY work he 
was working on...


General Action Items:
--------------------
* Hiro to provide more information on agenda item 5 related to table 
headers (from 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00007.html)
Not completed; Will have for next SC meeting, February 14
* Rich/Peter find deadlines for ODF 1.2
DONE - Answer was March '08; this may have changed...
Rich to PING again; also to verify whether TC would like to see our 1.2 
guidelines doc delivered at same time (in same "bundle") as 1.2 spec.
* Hiro - Write proposed modification to 8.1.1 to add caption-id for 
table, and 9.2.15.2 to include tables - <ref 
name="common-draw-caption-id-attlist"/>


Action Items for ODF Guidelines v1.2
------------------------------------
* Modify next version of accessibility guidelines to ensure applications 
respond to system font and color settings.
-> Peter will take this action, with no date committed yet.
* Add wording to the next revision of the accessibility guidelines to 
allow control of the animation rate of images in a presentation
-> Rich will take this action (and see if he can pawn it off onto Dave 
Pawson)
* Modify accessibility guidelines to state how common field attributes 
(section 6.7 of the ODF 1.2 spec.) should be supplied to the AT. The 
field attributes would indicate whether something were a boolean, 
gregorian date, etc.
-> Hiro: what is the motivation for defining the data type? Why does 
this need to be conveyed to the user?
-> Rich: this helps the AT know how to speak the object (e.g. knowing 
that it is a date is helpful there)
-> Peter: Neither IAcc2 nor ATK/AT-SPI have a way to address this. 
Peter's suggestion is to make the AccessibleRole a parseable string, 
e.g.: "Label:Boolean" to indicate the data-type.
-> Janina to put this issue onto the OpenA11y agenda
* Janina actions: create new wording for reload delay (section 3.13.2) 
which would allow user agents to control the reload delay and to state 
the WCAG requirements for content refreshing to prevent seizures. We 
need wording to provide control over flashing Here are some related links
-> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#general-thresholddef
-> 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20060427/#seizure-does-not-violate
-> JANINA to draft this for 14Feb08 meeting.
* Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to supply tracking change 
information to ATs.
-> PETE: meeting to discuss this in OpenA11y meeting next week (but 
without Malte). Will draft proposal for 14Feb08 mtg.
* Hiro: Provide wording in the to address dynamic, asynchronous updates 
There are several topics in the specs related to “asynchronous 
automatic update� of contents or values. Automatic updates should be 
carefully presented to assistive technologies through accessibility 
APIs. Documents are becoming more dynamic- async updates - some 
examples: linked tables, database ranges, scritping, text sections, DDE 
connecdtions.
-> Hiro: will research this; no commitment to have done by 14Feb08
* Update guidelines to direct folks on how to use the new svg:title and 
svg:desc for master pages in a presentation in ODF v1.2 (see 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00014.html)
-> <unassigned>





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