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Subject: OASIS ODF accessibility meeting minutes - 23May08
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Dear colleagues, Here are the minutes I took from our OASIS ODF accessibility meeting on 23May08. Please note that our next meeting is set for this coming Monday June 2nd, at 7am PT / 9am CT / 10am ET / 4pm CET / 11pm Japan time. Rich - I believe the deal was I'd wake up early for these meetings, and you'd be responsible for being coherent and running them! Attendees --------- Tatsuya Janina Pete Brunet Peter Korn Rich Hiro Agenda -------- 0. Approval of the minutes - I am not finding our previous minutes. Only two messages from Mike Paciello, at: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200805/msg00001.html and http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200805/msg00005.html * Unanimous consent to minutes sent by Mike Paciello at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200805/msg00022.html 1. Confirm with IBM Japan, all, that this as our most-of-the-time new meeting time * Tatsuya requests on behalf of the rest of IBM Japan that we start one hour earlier: at 11:00am PT / * Confirmations from Janina, Peter, Pete, Rich, Tatsuya, and Hiro that 7am PT / 9am CT / 10am ET / 11pm Japan works for them - except the 2nd Monday of every month for Rich is a conflict * Action: get confirmation from others 2. Conform with IBM Japan, all, which week of the month (and perhaps day of the week) we will use an alternate time, and exactly what that time is * IBM Japan reports that, so long as we are meeting one hour earlier (at 11pm their time), we don't need to meet at a better time for Japan one week a month. 3. Status of the vote for making our ODF Guidelines document a formal Committee Specification (see the vote at: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/ballot.php?id=1459) * Report of vote: 11 ayes, no nays; we are a committee specification * See: http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/office-accessibility/v1.0/cs01/ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.pdf and http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/office-accessibility/v1.0/cs01/ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.odt and http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/office-accessibility/v1.0/cs01/ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.html 4. ODF v1.2 draft -Latest: v7-02: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/28121/OpenDocument-v1.2-v7-02.odt - We have two concerns as stated by Pete Brunet about tables - see: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-accessibility/200805/msg00017.html - We had the plan from our last meeting (April 28) to assign sections of this specification for review, but are missing that report from the minutes. In the absence of that info, we will need to regenerate it * Rich: this specification seems not quite ready for review -> the schema isn't in sync with the rest of the document (Michael Brauer had suggested we provide schema changes). * AI for Rich: to work with the TC to determine when we will have a draft that is ready for our review 5. ODF Accessibility Guidelines v1.1 for ODF v1.2 - Seeking a new owner/maintainer for the document (instead of me)... * No volunteers; Peter remains stuck with it - Summary of planned additions/changes: a. Janina's new section 2.6, 2.6.1, and 2.6.2; also add guidelines to address reload delay section 3.13.2 which would allow user agents to control the reload delay, as per http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200804/msg00034.html * "3.13.2" is a red herring. Janina's new 2.6 is what was sought, and is done. Janina to modify the accessibility guidelines to state how common field attributes (section 6.7 of the ODF 1.2 spec.) should be supplied to the AT. The field attributes would indicate whether something were a boolean, gregorian date, etc. * This remains an open AI for Janina b. Peter Korn to: provide provide guidelines as to how to provide tracking information to ATs; and modify guidelines to ensure applications respond to system font and color settings. * This remains an open AI for Peter c. Rich Schwerdtfeger to: add wording to the next revision of the accessibility guidelines to allow control of the animation rate of images in a presentation * This remains an open AI for Rich d. Hiro to provide wording in the to address dynamic, asynchronous updates There are several topics in the specs related to “asynchronous automatic updateâ€� of contents or values. Automatic updates should be carefully presented to assistive technologies through accessibility APIs. Documents are becoming more dynamic- async updates - some examples: linked tables, database ranges, scritping, text sections, DDE connections. * This remains an open AI for Hiro; will check this also against the latest ODF v1.2 spec. 6. Previous action items: * Peter actions: - Check to see if this is a bug in OpenOffice: Address David's concern that headings were made available in an easy to discern way. ... H2s followed by H1s etc. He obtained that structure from an additional file. Came back in an OOo update, and that information was no longer available. Was Dave relying on optional attributes that are no longer there, or did OOo break the spec.? -> Not a spec. issue, and if a bug, it appears fixed. See Section 4.1 of the ODF v1.1 spec. The element is <text:h>, and the heading level is indicated by the attribute "text:outline-level" which is set to equal the heading level (e.g. "1", "2"). * Rich actions: - How does ODF do language tagging of a range of text? Font attributes? And how best to tag a string as "Grade 2 English Braille", vs. "music Braille in German". * This remains an open AI for Rich [From Tatsuya: look at ODF v1.1 spec. 15.4.23 Language; Use the fo:language, fo:language-asian and fo:language-complex properties to specify the language of the text. See §7.9.2 of [XSL] for details. Some applications ignore these properties if they are not specified together with the corresponding fo:country property.] - Find deadlines for ODF 1.2; also to verify whether TC would like to see our 1.2 guidelines doc delivered at same time (in same "bundle") as 1.2 spec. * This remains an open AI for Rich - Accessibility of Animations - Animations that are defined and controlled by ODF (eg. Fly right, fly left) - Embedded content that contains animations * This remains an open AI for Rich - Research Tasks - Plugins that support captions - OS Matrix on Descriptive Video * This remains an open AI for Rich - Modify Hiro's proposal to put into merge document. Notes from previous meeting: Hiro - Write proposed modification to 8.1.1 to add caption-id for table, and 9.2.15.2 to include tables - <ref name="common-draw-caption-id-attlist"/> [note that Hiro is providing more information related to table headers (from http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/email/archives/200711/msg00007.html) * This remains an open AI for Rich Regards, Peter Korn Accessibility Architect, Sun Microsystems, Inc. |
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