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Subject: RE: [office-collab] Thoughts and Comments onextended-change-tracking-proposal

By the way, while I look into this, I’d like to solicit input from others on how some of these cases should look.  Again, we intended this document to be a starting point of discussion, a catalyst for the subcommittee to create an inclusive design, not a specification of how I think every detail of a design must look.  I’d love to hear from others who have expertise in this area as they likely have some insights I may not.




From: John Haug [mailto:johnhaug@exchange.microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 5:45 PM
To: office-collab@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [office-collab] Thoughts and Comments on extended-change-tracking-proposal


Hi Ganesh –

Yes, as general text edits, we would certainly intend for #1 and #3 to be supported in an extension to the current change tracking model.  Same for #2 as a basic table edit.


I can start looking at building example markup snippets, though that will take some time given the number of specific cases called out.  Until then, some general guidance that might help: While working on the proposal it came out that each category of change essentially established a basic pattern.  So while each of the specific items listed below as example cases would be a separate markup snippet, they follow common patterns and you should be able to get a quick sense of the markup/implementation complexity by looking at similar examples in the proposal document.





-----Original Message-----
From: Ganesh Paramasivam [mailto:ganesh@crystalfab.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:45 PM
To: office-collab@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [office-collab] Thoughts and Comments on extended-change-tracking-proposal




I have had a change to go through the new change-tracking proposal and please find below my initial thoughts and comments.


I'm aware of the fact that this specification is intended as a "general vision document" than a full specification, but it would be nice to know the over-all approach that the proposal intends to take to support the below mentioned use-cases because that would a criteria ( implementation complexity and feasibility to support not-so-simple scenarios ) in comparing multiple approaches.





1. Missing support for certain types of delete merges.

The use-cases that come under this category are

- Paragraph merge with a list-item

- A list-item merge with paragraph.

- List-item merge with another list-item

- List merge with another list.

These use-cases are illustrated under the category "Other" ( I.1 through I.7) at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ChangeTrackingUseCases


2. Missing support for table cell splits and merges ( Single as well as multiples and combinations. example:- two consecutive horizontal merges followed by a vertical merge ) These use-cases are illustrated under the category "Tables" ( C.7 through C.10) at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ChangeTrackingUseCases


3. Clarification needed for multiple and over-lapping change use-cases. It is not entirely clear whether these use-cases are supported or not. Would be great to see this specifically addressed in the proposal.

Some examples ( non-exhaustive ) of this category are

- A paragraph addition followed by a merge of the paragraph with a preceding paragraph.

- Text addition followed by format-change followed by deletion of the text

- Paragraph addition followed by style-change followed by deletion of the paragraph.

- Text-deletion followed by deletion of the paragraph

- Text-addition followed by deletion of the paragraph.

- List-item addition followed by a merge with a succeeding paragraph.

Some of these use-cases are illustrated under the category "Multiple Changes" (F.1 through F.11) at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ChangeTrackingUseCases



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