Re: [office-collab] Re: Counting in Access Paths

[Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>]

Svante,

On 10/17/2012 12:21 PM, Svante Schubert wrote:

<snip>
> This is not an objection to MCT in principle, it is simply an objection to the difficulty and the apparent lack of resilience in the scheme by which the tracking is connected to the text that it applies to.  One can also argue that this is not in the spirit of XML-based models at all.
> Well, you might be right that operations are not fully representing the
> spirit of the XML-based model, but on the other hand operations are
> representing the spirit of distributed work. Sooner or later ODF
> applications need to solve real-time collaboration, merges by advanced
> techniques as Operational Transformation. XML is unfortunately not alone
> the hammer for this nail. Nevertheless we are still serializing the
> operations into XML. I do very much like XML, but we need to use a
> technology where it is suited for.
> And difficult? The LibreOffice developers listening to my MCT
> presentation, were quite excited. Even Michael Stahl - who implemented
> RDF Metadata in OpenOffice and is always very skeptical - told me
> afterwards, that this might work!
> As long the implementers like it, I am happy.
Just to quickly note that "...spirit of distributed work" and "real time 
collaborative merges may be requirements, someday, but in the words of 
Capt. Picard, "but not today."

;-)

I favor MCT because of its flexibility and scalability without a large 
markup overhead. Not to mention that at least in my view, extending MCT 
will not require changing element models, merely what can be addressed 
by MCT.

All of those are single application, edits/saves document and at some 
point, returns to the document to accept/reject changes or transfers the 
document to another user for the same scenario, use cases.

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick

PS: While I hear the concerns of implementers, the 50 million+ user 
community needs seem more important to me. Great software that isn't 
used is just that, great software that isn't used.





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