IRC log from today's meeting

          Dear SC,
 
Our next meeting will be on the 29th of July:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=07&day=29&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 

The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=39474
Dial-in will be similar to the TC.

Attendees: Jos, Peter, John, Svante
Action item: Peter agreed to make a test document of MultiRacio's current collaboration work available to the SC list.

Svante: Peter is continuing on the MCT prototype on the Calligra code basis
        

          Svante: Peter: At some point, when reaching a stable milestones the work should be released in public
        

          Svante: Jos: Is curious on the code and would love to take a look at it!
        

          Svante: Jos: On the webODF site is a project called Manticore, that is related to Collaboration doing the same operations
        

          Svante: Jos: Will sent a pointer to these projects to the SC mailing list
        

          Jos van den Oever: I'll paste links here so they get in the minutes
        

          Jos van den Oever: https://github.com/adityab/Manticore
        

          Jos van den Oever: https://github.com/kogmbh/kotype
        

          Svante: Thanks
        

          Jos van den Oever: here are the operations: https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/tree/master/webodf/lib/ops
        

          Jos van den Oever: this is close to what you are describing, svante
        

          Jos van den Oever: https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/tree/master/webodf/tests/ops
        

          Jos van den Oever: https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/blob/master/webodf/tests/ops/operationtests.xml
        

          Jos van den Oever: <before><office:text><text:p/></office:text></before>
        

          Jos van den Oever: <ops>
   <op optype="InsertText" position="0" text="a " moveCursor="true"/>
   <op optype="InsertText" position="2" text="b" moveCursor="true"/>
   <op optype="InsertText" position="3" text="c" moveCursor="true"/>
  </ops>
        

          Jos van den Oever: <after><office:text><text:p>a bc</text:p></office:text></after>
Svante: Svante: Talks about problems with "selling" the work on a "reloaded" change-tracking approach

          Svante: Svante: The solution of that problem is likely the advantages of automated regression tests, allowing more fine granular data change than loading a file.
        

          Svante: Svante: Another use case is to understand what features are part of a document..
        

          Svante: Peter: Can you get back to the list with what features you are working and require test documents or discussion on specification?
        

          Svante: I am curious if we can transform some operations (changes) from WebODF to Multracio's Calligra branch
        

          Svante: Perhaps we can even agree on protocol for a prototype exchanging operations
        

          Svante: Jos: Peter do you have a example document that we can map to operations
        

          Svante: Jos: Subversion from the TC is only used for the ODF specification
        

          Svante: Svante: Would love to have test files on a server to be downloaded on demand, like Maven binary dependencies, but this is a bells&whistles feature.. (nice2have)
        

          Svante: Svante: Usually there are test document for certain features. A document will be placed in a centralized place (like ODF TC) for every ODF application to access them
        

          Svante: Jos: The webodf developers are looking forward for test document(s) from Peter to the SC list
        

          Svante: It could be a test document with changes within and/or how a document is being mapped to a sequence of changes (as a different representation to the file format)
        

          Svante: So we meet again on the 29th of July in two week!
        

          Svante: byebye
        

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