IRC log from today's meeting

Dear SC,

Our next meeting will be on the 26th of August:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=08&day=26&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800

The next one is cancelled due to summer vacation time.

The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=39476

Dial-in will be similar to the TC.

Attendees: Peter, John, Svante
Action item: WebODF samples of their operations should be compared with the given ones:

[16:30] Svante Schubert: Hi Peter

[16:31] Peter Rakyta: Hi

[16:33] Svante Schubert: To start with an announcement, if not already done so in the ODF TC, there will be an ODF Plugfest in Den Haag: http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/

[16:34] Svante Schubert: on the 15th and 16th September 2015

[16:34] Svante Schubert: There had been test documents from Peter and myself on the list: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/maillist.html

[16:37] Svante Schubert: Here is my test document - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/msg00003.html

[16:38] Svante Schubert: Then we have the test document of Peter - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/msg00007.html

[16:39] Svante Schubert: the public links are:

[16:39] Svante Schubert: 1) https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=56181&wg_abbrev=office-collab

[16:41] Svante Schubert: Peter: The undo.xml is included as part of the modified ODT document

[16:42] Peter Rakyta: <!DOCTYPE undo>
<undo started="2015-07-27T12:47:01">
 <ChangeGroup date="2015-07-27T12:47:20" id="1" comment="Test case 001" author="Peter Rakyta">
  <del type="text" id="2" s="/17/75" e="/17/99"/>
  <add type="text" id="4" s="/18/68" e="/18/87"> special characters</add>
  <add type="text" id="6" s="/20/52" e="/20/65"> sentence two</add>
  <del type="text" id="8" s="/17/153" e="/17/155"></del>
  <add type="text" id="9" s="/17/153" e="/17/176">sentence four. This is </add>
  <del type="par" id="11" s="/17/99" e="/18/100"/>
  <del type="text" id="13" s="/20/67" e="/20/68"/>
  <add type="par" id="14" s="/20/67" e="/21/1"/>
 </ChangeGroup>
</undo>

[16:42] Svante Schubert: ^^ the undo.xml being included in the modified document

[16:43] Svante Schubert: Peter: These are the character and paragraph changes being described in the text of the document.

[16:43] Svante Schubert: Peter: This undo.xml was being created by the Calligra Android version that is being developed by MultiRacio

[16:48] Svante Schubert: In Denmark there will be in September 23.-25. as well the LibreOffice conference having an ODF track - https://conference.libreoffice.org/

[16:49] Svante Schubert: Peter: What kind of test document do we neeD?

[16:49] Svante Schubert: I would always prefer those that can be tested automatically.. :)

[16:50] Svante Schubert: InputDocument + Change =? ReferenzDocument

[16:50] Svante Schubert: InputDocument + Change =? ReferenzChanges

[16:50] Svante Schubert: ^^ one of the above approaches?

[16:51] Svante Schubert: Are we testing the document or a sequence of changes in the end as referencE?

[16:51] Svante Schubert: I will take a closer look at the autotests that Jos has started.

[16:53] Svante Schubert: What do we need to change of the structure of the test documents of Peter?

[16:54] Svante Schubert: For instance, what was the original application the documents are created from?

[16:55] Svante Schubert: Perhaps we might want to use naming convention of the document file name to see from first sight, what app it was created from?

[16:55] Svante Schubert: Wouldn't be nice to start test driven?

[16:56] Svante Schubert: Have a automated test framework using your test documents.

[17:01] Svante Schubert: Now the WebODf should come up with a feed-back.

[17:02] Svante Schubert: We need to agree on a syntax so we can exchange test documents among WebODF, OX Text and your Calligra branch

[17:04] Svante Schubert: It might be reasonable to have adapters translating one operations to another.. to be compatible fast with comparable little effort

[17:06] Svante Schubert: In two weeks I will be on summer vacations so the next call will be:

[17:06] Svante Schubert: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=08&day=26&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800

[17:07] Svante Schubert: thanks for joining!

[17:07] Svante Schubert: bye

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