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Subject: Re: [office-collab] IRC log from our meeting on 2016-01-27


Hi Svante!

Unfortunately, my family and me were taken ill, so I cannot attend the SC call today.

Best regards,
Peter


On 03/20/2016 04:53 PM, Svante Schubert wrote:
> Due to Eastern Holidays and recent enlargement of my family we decided to cancel our next SC meeting.
> 
> Our next meeting will be on the 6th of April:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=04&day=6&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
> 
> 
> The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event:
> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=39492
> 
> 
> Please find the IRC log of last meeting below: 
> 
> Attendees: Patrick, Peter, Svante
> [16:29] Svante Schubert: Hello Peter
> [16:29] Svante Schubert: I am dialing in
> [16:30] Svante Schubert: Good timing
> [16:31] Peter Rakyta: Hi Svante
> [16:48] Svante Schubert: Lets figure out how to explain best a student working on Google Summer of Code (GSoC) the idea of operations, similar as done
> in the mail of yesterday
> [16:49] Svante Schubert: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201603/msg00000.html
> [16:49] Svante Schubert: for instance that the operations are not idempotent nor
> [16:49] Svante Schubert: commutative
> [16:53] Svante Schubert: Example for commutative with two operations: "Add A at position 1" and "Add B at position 2"
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: We have a ordered sequence of two operations
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: For the log reader: Commutative means they are exchangeable
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: by coming to the same end result (document state)
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: But in this case we need to change the positions
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: "Add B at position 1" and "Add A at position 1"
> [16:54] Svante Schubert: Right?
> [16:55] Svante Schubert: And idempotent means you can apply the same operation multiple times and the same document will occur, which is in general
> not the case.
> [16:55] Svante Schubert: For example adding a character will always change the document state.
> [17:02] Svante Schubert: Changes starting from a state of a document, similar to a versioning commit from a source state (revision)
> [17:22] Svante Schubert: e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_clocks
> [17:23] Svante Schubert: ^^ the picture says more than the text, which seems more complicated than necessary


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