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Subject: Re: [office-comment] marking directionality of text inside a paragraph

On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 13:09 -0600, Frode Severin Hatlevik wrote:
> 2011/10/19, Andreas J. Guelzow <andreas.guelzow@concordia.ab.ca>:
> <snip />
> >> > something). The ordering of punctuation, however, is ambiguous, and
> >> > without manual settings it is often shown incorrectly. It is
> >> > reasonably easy in manually-coded HTML, it is not-so-great in MS-Word
> >> > and it is impossible in OpenDocument (unless i am missing something).
> >> > I am not familiar with any program that allows to do it with a GUI and
> >> > without manual coding.
> >>
> >> I am still not quite sure why you say it is "impossible in
> >> OpenDocument"?
> >
> I do not know much about the relationship between what is possible to
> achieve in OpenOffice.org and what is in the ODF spec. It seems to me,
> though, from what others are writing in this thread, that the problem
> with misplaced punctuation in inline RTL text in an LTR paragraph is
> best sorted in the application layer.

ODF files store sequences of Unicode characters. The purpose of RLE,
RLM, RLO, etc Unicode control characters is to control right to left
versus left to right placement of characters. (For example in by default
let to right text RLM marks a preceding bi-directional character such as
the exclamation mark to be right-to-left (and would so be to the left of
a preceding right to left string).
> The only thing that needs clarification is wether or not there is
> native support in ODF for such a paragraph as the one in 'walla.html'
> as supplied by Amir.

There is UNICODE support for it, as a consequence there is ODF support.

>  If so, this issue is perhaps better sorted with
> the developers of LibreOffice, possibly at
> l10n@global.libreoffice.org.

Indeed. Or witht he people at OPenOffice.org if that is teh application
of interest.
> I am not fluent in any RTL languages, but I can help with testing, as
> I have access to different platforms, such as GNU/Linux, Mac, and
> Windows 7 64bit.


Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD, FTICA
Concordia University College of Alberta

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