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Subject: Proposed changes to spreadsheet functions YEAR, MONTH, DAY, HOUR, MINUTE, SECOND and other related

• From: Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski@hotmail.com>
• To: office-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
• Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:24:44 +0300

```Hi!

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As mentioned in [1], there is a problem in the OASIS OpenFormula standard (as of v.1.3 [2]). The spreadsheet functions YEAR, MONTH, DAY, HOUR, MINUTE are defined in such a way that for any given value of time, they discard fractions of respective time part: e.g., MINUTE would only return whole number of minutes contained in the parameter, discarding any fraction of a minute, no matter how close it is to 1. On the other hand, spreadsheet function SECOND is defined to round the number of seconds in minute fraction, thus it may return a number that is greater by 1 compared to the whole number of seconds actually contained in the minute fraction.
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Furthermore, SECOND is defined to return 0 through 59 (never 60), but to use formula equivalent to ROUND(MinuteFraction * 60). Here is the first minor inconsistency: ROUND(MinuteFraction * 60) results in numbers 0 through 60, not through 59.
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It is impossible to modify the definition of SECOND to return 0 through 60, because it would then become inconsistent with other spreadsheet software, introducing major interoperability problems. Correcting the equivalent formula to result in 0 through 59, like "MOD(ROUND(MinuteFraction * 60), 60)", brings us to the next inconsistency:
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ÂÂÂ For all values of TimeParam T which have (MinuteFraction * 60) between 59.5 and 60.0, the set of functions:
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Â ÂÂ ÂÂ =YEAR(T) &"-"& MONTH(T) &"-"& DAY(T) &" "& HOUR(T) &":"& MINUTE(T) &":"& SECOND(T)
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ÂÂÂ results in an ISO date-time string that is off by ~1 minute (actually, exactly by value of (MinuteFraction * 60) seconds).
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This happens because value returned by SECOND will be 0 (zero), as if the next minute has already started, while all other functions return values of the minute, hour, day, ... that are still active for T.
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For instance, for T corresponding for 2020-09-15 15:23:59.60, the result of the mentioned formula would be "2020-9-15 15:23:0".
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It is impossible to change definition of SECOND to discard fraction of a second (for consistency with other functions), because then it would again be inconsistent with other spreadsheet software. So the only solution is to re-define the other functions to be consistent with (improved) SECOND definition, like this:
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ÂÂÂ * Proposed improvement for SECOND(TimeParam T): Second=MOD(ROUND(T*86400);60)
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ÂÂÂ * Proposed change for MINUTE(TimeParam T): Minute=(MOD(ROUND(T*86400);3600)-SECOND(T))/60
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ÂÂÂ ... etc.

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This would not only make the functions consistent within the standard, but also with other spreadsheet software.
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[1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136615#c0

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[2] https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/cs01/part4-formula/OpenDocument-v1.3-cs01-part4-formula.html#__RefHeading__1018202_715980110
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Best regards,

Mike Kaganski

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