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*Subject*: **Re: [office-formula] Groups - OpenDocument-formula-20091202 (OpenDocument-formula-20091202.odt) uploaded**

*From*:**Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>***To*: office-formula@lists.oasis-open.org*Date*: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:15:52 -0500

Eike, Comments below: Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > On Thursday, 2009-12-03 16:49:02 +0000, Patrick Durusau wrote: > > >> First of the structural changes (moved conformance clause to last place >> before annexes) and corrected hanging paragraphs. >> > > In section 6.12 you inserted 6.12.1 General, removed the sentence about > DOLLAR, which is correct, but also removed the sentence about the Basis > parameter and its cross reference, which is necessary for these > functions. I'll add that again so it doesn't get lost, though the > phrasing "Many functions ..." may need improvement. > > Well, there are two questions (in general but we will make them specific here): 1) Do we need to talk about basis? 2) If yes, where should we talk about it? Answers: 1) Yes, for financial functions we need to talk about basis. OK, so go to #2 (This may sound silly but the questions can have complex and interdependent answers.) 2) Where to talk about basis? General rule: As close to where the reader is going to need the information, except that if it is repeated (I can think of some nearly 10,000 page standards that did this) we can either repeat it every time it comes up, or we can just say it once. What did we do here? Well, we do say something about basis, as an off hand statement with a cross-reference in a general section. I agree that basis is *important* so I would give it a separate section. Do we talk about it elsewhere? Well, yes, yes we do: See 6.12.2 ACCRINT for example. We say: > /basis/ The type of day-count basis to use; see section 4.10.6 > Ouch! So not only do we say it in general under 6.12.1 but we repeat it under all the functions where it is in question. This was my question the other day about calling information out to be said once and only once. For example, we could add a Financial Functions Variables Section immediately after 6.12.1 and list all the variable for financial functions (assuming their meanings never change) once for all financial functions. Noting that if we ever have to correct one of them, it is corrected in one place and one place only. * * * Is that how you do in ASCII the conclusion symbol from geometry? ;-) Therefore, I would urge you to *not* add the general basis material back in, at least not at that location. Further, consider what it would look like to see all the variables for a set of functions (not just these) in one location. These are not being written as a tutorial for spreadsheet users. Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend! Patrick > Eike > > -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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