Re: [office-metadata] [Fwd: Re: ODF and semantic web]

[robert_weir@us.ibm.com]

This sounds like a good idea.  Maybe
start with a single 90-minute conf call with overview and Q&A and see
where it goes from there.  Formal liaisons could follow if needed
for a longer term relationship. (OASIS has procedures in place for this.)
  We're still in draft, so any input at this stage is good.  Best
to front-load the expert comments than to be surprised by criticism when
it is too late to react.

-Rob
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"Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>

10/14/2007 10:35 AM

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Any thoughts? It might be a good idea ...

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: ODF and semantic web
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:29:47 -0400
From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
CC: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>,        
        Semantic Web 
<semantic-web@w3.org>,          
      W3C RDFa task force <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
References: <4710D6BC.4080705@gmail.com> 
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How open is the ODF community to input at this stage?   Would
it be useful to W3C and ODF to meet and plan mutual review of specs?
(If so, who should be in the meeting?)

Tim

On 2007-10 -14, at 06:38, Mark Birbeck wrote:

>
> Hi Bruce,
>
>> I've mentioned this here before, but more on RDF-in-OpenDocument.
>>
>> <http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/10/odf-enters-semantic-web.html>
>>
>> The OpenOffice project is now starting to looking into  
>> implementing it,
>> so people here might be interested.
>
> I note that the attributes used in ODF are 'inspired' by RDFa [1]--but
> why not just incorporate RDFa as is?
>
> It's especailly confusing for authors when this 'inpiration' seems
to
> involve copying some RDFa attributes, but changing the names of
> others. For example, @about is used, but @datatype has been renamed
to
> @data-type!
>
> This lack of alignment is a shame, especially when the proponents
of
> ODF are generally critical of the confusion that can be caused by
> companies and organisations pursuing alternate document formats. There
> is a fantastic opportunity here for creating tools and search engines
> that could leverage a 'standard' way of incorporating metadata into
> HTML, XHTML, ODF, and other mark-up languages. That opportunity now
> looks like it is going to be missed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> [1] <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/25055/
> Metadata_22August2007.txt>
>
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