Hi Carol,
A couple of things. First of all thanks for responding. My Open
Desktop Summit presentation was on behalf of OpenOffice.org. The OASIS
OpenDocument file format specification is a topic that everyone wants
to know more about. In spite of the time limitations though,
everything went very well. For sure this is an issue of great
expectations, lots of controversy, and few known facts.
Regarding the "logo". The only two issues remaining seem to be that of
compliance, and continuing questions about mounting the OASIS Logo
against different colored backgrounds.
First, the easy question: Many of the
OpenOffice.org presentations, as well as those of the many affiliates
re packaging OOo components, use backgrounds other than white. The
question most asked is that of getting OASIS permission to alter the
color scheme of the logo to better contrast with background variations?
Is there a policy or graphic guidelines for this? Or does OASIS stick
to a white button look against the many possible backgrounds?
The issue of compliance is of greater
concern. Are there other OASIS TC's that have successfully dealt with
the compliance issue? We were thinking that perhaps you might be able
to refer us to those groups, or otherwise advise as to how we might
best proceed.
The OpenOffice.org community has
volunteered a “compliance” solution based on the communities experience
tracking and enforcing marketplace compliance with the OOo license. As
you might know, there are many vendors and service providers
repackaging OOo components for resale and distribution.
The suggestion is that OOo, KOffice, and
Debian community members would form a market watch group that checks
for logo implementation and exacting compliance with the specification.
The market group would identify implementations, and contact the owners
for basic compliance information. The OASIS OpenDocument TC would
provide the market watch group with simplified testing criteria
designed to throw red flags based on general concerns.
In the event of a red flag, the market
watch group would forward the issue to the OpenDocument TC for further
study. If needed, the TC would notify owners that a study is under way
and that there might be some concerns with compliance.
A TC initiated finding of non compliance
would trigger a grace period where the vendor/owner would be able to
remedy any discrepancies, based on TC and OSS community comments.
During that time, the TC would require that all advertising and
promotion materials put out by that vendor state something on the order
of “compliance certification pending”. Once compliance is affirmed,
consent for using the logo would be provided.
That's the simple outline of what is
being discussed. We welcome any suggestions you might have. And if you
do have time to join our weekly conference, that would be most welcome.
We have already seen the compliance
issue raised in the EU. Claims and accusations were being tossed about
with wild abandon. The fact that the OASIS OpenDocument standard has
made it's way into EU purchase cycle requirements is significant, but
this is just the beginning. Compliance is no longer an idle issue, and
we need to come up with an approach that works for OASIS and, the many
future users of the OpenDocument file format specification.
Thanks for your consideration Carol,
~ge~
Gary Edwards
OpenOffice.org
volunteer serving on the OASIS OpenDocument XML file format TC.
Carol Geyer wrote:
Gary,
First, I appreciate your kind offer to create a logo, but OASIS does have a mark that we use to brand all approved OASIS Standards. See attached examples for UDDI and SAML. Michael Brauer has indicated this logo will meet the TC's needs, although we haven't ironed out all the usage issues. We want to be careful not to imply OASIS has verified compliance unless, of course, we actually have some sort of compliance program in place.
Second, WRT your presentation, will you be presenting on behalf of the OASIS OpenDocument TC or on behalf of yourself or your employer? See http://www.oasis-open.org/private/presenting.php for more details on what this means and how we can help. Jane Harnad (jane.harnad@oasis-open.org) will be happy to assist you.
Regards,
Carol
________________________________
From: Gary Edwards [mailto:gary.edwards@OpenStack.us]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:30 PM
To: Carol Geyer
Subject: OASIS OpenDocument: Desktop Summit, Logo & Banner
Hi Carol,
My name is Gary Edwards, and i'm a volunteer representing the OpenOffice.org Community on the OASIS OpenDocument TC (formerly the
OASIS Open Office TC). I've got two issues i'd like to present to you. The first involves a request from the OpenOffice.org
Marketing Project to create a logo for the OASIS OpenDocument universal file format. The second is that i will be speaking at the
San Diego Open Desktop Summit <http://desktopsummit.com/agenda.php> , Wednesday, February 7th, 2005.
The title of my presentation is: T <http://desktopsummit.com/topics.php#shot> he Shot Heard Round the World: How the OASIS
OpenDocument Changes Everything <http://desktopsummit.com/topics.php#shot>
<http://desktopsummit.com/topics.php#shot>
The conference contact is:
Heather MacKenzie
Desktop Summit Event Manager
www.desktopsummit.com
858.587.6700 x263
Regarding the logo issue:
The OpenOffice.org Marketing Project wants to develop and use a logo for the OASIS OpenDocument XML file format specification. This
would be something that compliant applications could display in their marketing and representation materials. The OOo Marketing
Project also believes that such branding would further recognition of the OASIS OpenDocument file format.
Is there a mechanism and guidelines for creating such a logo? Would it be okay for OOo members to submit proposals to OASIS for
approval? I tried to contact OASIS Member Services with this eMail, but it bounced. So i'm hoping you can help with some advice.
The OOo Marketing Project has reviewed the activities of other OASIS TC's regarding the look and feel of various logos and banners,
but it would be helpful if we could work from specific guidelines.
Your consideration of this issue is much appreciated,
~ge~
Gary Edwards
gary.edwards@OpenStack.us
garyedwards@Yahoo.com
(650) 365-0899
OpenOffice.org volunteer serving on the OASIS OpenDocument TC
www.oasis-open.org <http://www.oasis-open.org>