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Subject: OpenDocument TC Meeting Minutes 2006-01-09 and 2005-12-19


Minutes for 2006-01-09

Attendees
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Nathaniel Borenstein	IBM
Yue Ma	IBM
Robert Weir	IBM
Patrick Durusau
Waldo Bastian	Intel
David Faure	KDE Project
Jody Goldberg	Novell
Michael Brauer	Sun Microsystems
Peter Korn	Sun Microsystems
Lars Oppermann	Sun Microsystems
Florian Reuter	Sun Microsystems
Bruce D'Arcus	The OpenDocument Foundation, Inc.
Gary Edwards	The OpenDocument Foundation, Inc.
David Wheeler	The OpenDocument Foundation, Inc.

Acceptance of Minutes from Last Call
------------------------------------
The minutes were not posted yet. They are attached to this mail.


Action Items
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- none -

General Topics
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Next Monday if a public holiday in the US (Martin Luther King Day). 
There will be no call on that day.

Starting with the next call, a new conference line (number) will be 
used. Michael will post the details.

IPR Transition voting should have started on Jan. 5th. The current 
status is not clear. Michael will check back with OASIS on progress.

Discussed Topics
-----------------

A11Y:
Some of the invited experts are still missing. The membership materials 
have been reviewed for being accessible and were distributed. Peter 
offered to re-check the materials for any accessibility issues.

Nathaniel will now go forward to organize the first meeting, in around 
two weeks. A message will be sent out proposing a date.

Michael has also posted a Tagged-PDF version of the specification to the 
TC page.

There will be a CEN/ISSS workshop on Document Processing for 
Accessibility in Brussels Jan. 23rd:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200512/msg00031.html

Malte Timmermann from Sun and a co-worker of Nathaniel from IBM will 
attend the workshop. Also Pim van der Eijk from OASIS will be attending 
on behalf of the OpenDocument TC.

text-object-position:
Further discussion via mail (David, Michael) came to the conclusion, 
that we should live without such hints, as they would only be useful in 
a very limited number of cases.

Interop for Settings:
OpenDocument specifies a generic settings container (settings.xml) which 
is used by OpenOffice.org to store some application specific settings, 
e.g. concerning some rendering options that were in effect when the 
document was saved
Should such settings be standardized, and if yes, to what extend?
David F.: some of those settings could also be viewed as document-level 
styles
Jody, David W.: this has also relevance in the area of spreadsheets, 
e.g. sheet-specific settings (-> styles)
David F. and Michael will follow up on this topic

Unique Names for Automatic Styles:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200512/msg00020.html
currently, the specification does not require the name of automatic 
styles to be unique, for styles that are defined in styles.xml and in 
content.xml.
A future version of the spec should at least contain a 
'SHOULD'-assertion on style names being unique.
Style names are also not required to be unique across different 
style-family, which could be a potential problem for implementors.

New Action Items:
-----------------
Michael: post details on new conference line
Michael: check status for IPR transition
Nathaniel: start scheduling first A11Y call
David F., Michael: follow up on settings

Next conference call
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2006-01-23 4PM GMT – 5:00PM GMT

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Minutes for 2005-12-19

Attendees
---------
Nathaniel Borenstein	IBM
Robert Weir	IBM
Patrick Durusau
Waldo Bastian	Intel
David Faure	KDE Project
Michael Brauer	Sun Microsystems
Lars Oppermann	Sun Microsystems
Gary Edwards	The OpenDocument Foundation, Inc.

Acceptance of Minutes from Last Call
------------------------------------
The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes.

Action Items
------------
David, Florian: continue discussion on object-position-hints
  - ongoing
Rob: prepare start of A11Y SC
  - new version of PDF was sent out
  - ASC should be ready to start after holiday break

General Topics
--------------
There will be a new conference line number for this call next year. 
Details will follow

Michael has prepared a new version of the FAQ. No one had any issues 
with this new version and it will be posted to the TC page.

Discussed Topics
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Meta Data:

The first phase of working on the OpenDocument meta data model is to 
define a mapping from the meta data as it is in the spec now to the RDF 
data model.
This mapping should also conform to the subset of the RDF data model 
that XMP is using
The mapping should map some of the meta:-namespace properties to dcq 
properties if there are appropriate ones available.
Lars and Florian are working on the mapping.

The second phase will address the extensibility of the Open Document 
meta data facility.
Michael will collect requirements for this second phase.
Phase 2 should enable application developers, to store those meta data 
attributes that are needed by their users.

The first two phases do not cover meta data statements on specific parts 
of a document (e.g. individual paragraphs). This will be covered in a 
third phase.
It is not yet clear to which kinds of objects, metadata should be 
attachable. One might think of XML elements or specific objects, that 
have meaning in the context of a specific document, e.g. paragraphs in 
text documents. Also for this phase, requirements are still needed.

New Action Items:
-----------------
- none -

Next conference call
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2006-01-09 4PM GMT – 5:00PM GMT



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