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Subject: RE: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agenda Items

Hi everyone,

  Just to clarify - David, you're a member of the TC, not an observer, and as such are allowed full participation rights. Your
voting rights are probationary until you've met the attendance requirements. I just didn't want any confusion regarding the OASIS
roles and what they mean ;-)



Mary P McRae
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Wheeler [mailto:dwheeler@dwheeler.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:33 AM
> To: Bruce D'Arcus
> Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agenda Items
> On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:22 AM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
> >> 1) Proposal to create additional Subcommittees
> ...
> >> c) Subcommittee formed to develop and propose further support for 
> >> Metadata and Spreadsheet Formulas.
> >> d) ODF 1.1 draft released with enhanced metadata, spreadsheet 
> >> formulas, and whatever other new features the TC may propose
> >> e) Compliance Subcommittee formed to propose ways to define 
> >> compliance and recommend and perhaps develop a means to verify 
> >> compliance of ODF-supporting applications
> If you don't mind, I'd like to wait to discuss formulas and 
> how to handle them (including subcommittees, etc.) until 
> AFTER the upcoming Monday meeting.  Technically, I'm only an 
> "observer"
> until after next meeting, yet I'm ESPECIALLY interested in 
> ensuring that spreadsheet formulas are well-defined. I'd 
> prefer to legitimately be part of that discussion :-).
> If it's any consolation, formulas aren't standing still anyway.
> As you know, I'm leading a group ("OpenFormula") that is 
> creating an early draft spec for spreadsheet formulas for 
> OpenDocument. We plan to submit it to a standards body, and 
> I've been having several emails with OASIS management about 
> that very subject.  We've made a lot of progress, I think.
> Speaking of compliance tests, in the OpenFormula work, we've 
> combined two problems into a solution. Our problems were:
> (1) How can you define functions well enough to really know 
> what they mean, and (2) how do you get a compliance test?
> The answer, for us, has been to embed compliance tests into 
> the specification itself.  I don't think this would work in 
> the general case, but for spreadsheet formulas, giving 
> specific required answers as part of each definition is 
> turning out to be VERY useful.  Instead of dancing over the 
> head of the pin of some terms, the test cases eliminate a 
> VAST number of misunderstandings.
> They also let us examine what current applications do, quickly.
> --- David A. Wheeler
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