Re: [office] OASIS process

[Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>]

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Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review Board
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Nathaniel S Borenstein/Concord/IBM@IBMUS

Nathaniel S Borenstein/Concord/IBM@IBMUS

03/17/2006 02:49 PM

To	patrick@durusau.net
cc	OpenDocument Mailing List <office@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Bastian, Waldo" <waldo.bastian@intel.com>
Subject	Re: [office] OASIS process

Yes, it sounds like the most important hair to split is the definition of "errata and that sort of thing." I suspect that an erratum is really anything we are collectively willing to call an erratum with a straight face. On the other hand, if even one or two of us feel that a particular change has crossed the line, it's probably time to "reset the clock" to 60 days.

A good example will be most of the changes I expect to see proposed by the accessibility subcommittee. With a few exceptions, these will be noncontroversial items that address issues that simply hadn't been considered previously. If everyone agrees that a change is a commonsense, backward-compatible fix to address a previously omitted issue, I'd like to be able to call it an erratum and call for a 15 day review.

I don't know if OASIS has any more specific rules about this, but if it not then Robert's Rules of Order would seem to suggest that the Chair can simply ask if there are any objections and, in their absence, declare that the 15 day rule applies. -- Nathaniel

Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>

03/17/2006 02:30 PM

Please respond to
patrick@durusau.net

To	"Bastian, Waldo" <waldo.bastian@intel.com>
cc	OpenDocument Mailing List <office@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	Re: [office] OASIS process

Waldo,

Bastian, Waldo wrote:

>ODF 1.0 has passed step #6 already. I understand your question to mean where the process for ODF 1.1 should start. I expect that to be step #1.
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I am not certain that is what is meant by the rules. Consider that ODF
1.0 has not stopped being an OASIS specification from the ODF TC simply
because it is now also an OASIS Standard.

In order to handle errata and that sort of thing for an OASIS standard,
it would make sense to have the 15 day rule, that is to start at step
#3. That puts only the parts that are changed under public review, etc.,
and then for a shorter period of time. I don't know of any reason why
errata should be treated as though we were creating an entirely new
standard.

That reading allows both the full 60 day review for an OASIS standard
and yet also allows a 15 day public review for correcting errata. To me
that gives all the rules a meaningful place in the TC process.

If we were writing another standard, then I think you would be entirely
correct and we would have to start over at step 1.

Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!

Patrick


>Waldo Bastian
>Linux Client Architect - Channel Platform Solutions Group
>Intel Corporation - http://www.intel.com/go/linux
>OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman
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>From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:18 AM
>To: OpenDocument Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [office] OASIS process
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>Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM> wrote on 03/17/2006 06:59:20 AM:
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>>1. The OpenDocument TC approves a specification as committee draft.
>>2. A public review of the committee draft takes place for a minimum
>>of 60 days.
>>3. If comments are received that require a change of the specification, the
>>spcification is changed accordingly, and a public review of the changes takes
>>place for 15 days. This step may be repeated.
>>4. The TC approves the specification as committee specification.
>>5. The TC submits the Committee Specification to the membership of OASIS for
>>consideration as an OASIS Standard. This submission must be requested by the
>>15th of a month.
>>6. Starting at the 1st of the next month, the voting takes place.
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>So, the question is this:  If we make changes to ODF 1.0 in response to comments, does this send us back to step #1?  Or does that send us back to step #3?  
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>-Rob
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