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Subject: OpenDocuemnt TC Coordination Call Minutes 2006-10-23
1. Rollcall Nathaniel Borenstein, IBM Yue Ma, IBM Robert Weir, IBM Helen Yue, IBM James Mason, ISO/IEC Patric Durusau David Faure, KDE Jody Goldberg, Novell Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems Lars Oppermann, Sun Microsystems David A Wheeler, OpenDocument Foundation Bruce D'Arcus, OpenDocument Foundation Gary Edwards, OpenDocument Foundation 2. Acceptance of Minutes from Last Call The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes from the last coordination call. 3. Action item review michael: request CS ballot - done 4. ODF 1.1 Michael: spec was approved as committee spec. last week. I am currently finishing documents (providing various formats also HTML). ... full set will be ready tomorrow ... last week we learned from Peter K. that we should 1.1 an OASIS Std. We can only now make the formal decision as last week was a work call. Certification due end of November Proposal -Request submission ballot now -send out request for ballot by 15th of December (certifications required) -start OASIS ballot in mid January Alternative, wait with submission ballot until certifications are in Lars: certify first and vote afterwards sounds better to me Michael: doing the ballot now would send out a stronger message ... I can ask the people that are expected to provide certifications and we can set up the ballot once I have some positive reply from at least three parties. - so resolved 4. ODF 1.2 planning three open issues for discussion: 1. should the specification be divided into parts? ... advantage to formally approve independent parts when they are ready ... possible parts are formulas and packages also Lars: how about metadata? Bruce: could be Michael: is also an option Michael: I can discuss the technical details about subdividing the spec with Mary. She already indicated that we should maintain some sort of frameworks that makes it very clear which parts are part of an actual standard DavidW: would a possibility be, to declare an opendocument version as the collection of particular part revisions. Michael: not sure whether we can have a public review of the full spec and the parts separately. Lars: we should have a review for an umbrella document that says which parts belong together forming a particular ODF version Lars: if need be, parts could even be made into separate OASIS specs DavidW: we can try to make sure that documents are written in a way that this is possible. Michael: how large is the formula specification right now David: +200-300 pages? (349) Michael: James, Patrick, can you say which is better for ISO (James: we are getting very large documents these days) David: it's also easier, to update a part vs. the whole specification Michael: from a maintainability perspective parts are also easier to handle. Two or three parts, making up ODF 1.2 ... we could also conduct public reviews independently if we make clear that it is not the full spec but rather a part ... for example for something new like formula it can be benficial to review it earlier as there might be more comments to such new work. ... I will try to confirm what our options are in this matter with OASIS/Mary 5. schedule for 1.2 Michael: was discussed last week. I checked how much time is required between phases. I posted the resulting schedule last Friday. It forsees working on the spec until January. After that two month of editing and stabilizing. could be approved as CD in April Public review in May/June Takes two month top process public review results and prepare documents for OASIS standard submission -> Jul/Aug OASIS Std ballot would be in Sept/Nov DavidW: what about the ISO reformatting, is that included in that schedule Michael: yes, it would be one of the first editorial tasks DavidW: How will that reformatting effect the work of the formula SC, we have a large document and I would like to have the information on how that needs to be formatted so it doesn't cause too much delay. Patrick: there are some templates DavidW: are we looking mostly at margins, fon-sizes...? Michael: I assume that it is relatively easy DavidW: if the format is going to change, is there a way to make it easier, someone ought to figure out what particularly needs to be done Michael: I will do that and tell you (and the other SCs) as soon as I found out what needs to be done... Michael: we cannot vote on the final schedule until we know what actualy is to go into the specification ... However we should at least commit to this initial schedule of standardizing ODF 1.2 objections? comments? DavidW: what exactly are we agreeing to Michael: basically the time line that I sent to the list Bruce: would the deadline for proposal than be end of January Michael: yes, that would be the latest date to consider proposals that are not breaking compatibility Bruce: can you follow up with more detailed guidelines on what breaking-compatibility means? Michael: basically. when a 1.2 document is opened in a 1.1 application, the features that were already in 1.1 should be preserved... - call ends Next meeting: Work call 2006-10-30, 4:00PM-5:00PM UTC (Not that both Europe and the US are getting back on standard time on Sunday Oct. 29th, we are hence still at 5PM CET, 11AM East and 8AM Pacific) -- Lars Oppermann <lars.oppermann@sun.com> Sun Microsystems Software Engineer Nagelsweg 55 Phone: +49 40 23646 959 20097 Hamburg, Germany Fax: +49 40 23646 550 http://www.sun.com/staroffice
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