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Subject: Re: [office] Re: [office-comment] Re: my comments on the numbering spec proposal discussed by David F. andFlorian R.

On Dec 11, 2006, at 9:53 AM, David Faure wrote:

> One could certainly define two styles L1 and L2 that both use a/b/c/d, 
> but this isn't about style anymore then, it's about identifying lists,

Exactly right, and I want to underline this conceptual point, even if I 
don't have a lot to say about the specifics.

> and this is what I propose to separate out into list-id.

As I mentioned before, this is a general issue it seems to me, and I'd 
want any solution here to at least recognize that.

Consider the fact that one cannot now include lists or blockquotes or 
whatever within a paragraph, despite the fact they are almost always 
conceptually connected (in the sense that a user typically understands 
them to be).

The business of list numbering and its relation to the identity of 
lists is the same underlying issue.

I''d also like to point out that I'm increasingly seeing the impulse to 
stretch the style concept beyond what I'd call it's proper role. So 
before we do that, can someone define exactly what styles are and ought 
to be in ODF?

I'd say they define a class of content type, to which presentational 
information may -- and typically is -- attached.

They DO NOT identify any particular instance of a such a class.


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